Force exerted to stop falling object

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The problem involves a diver stepping off a diving board and falling into the water, requiring the calculation of the average resistance force exerted by the water as the diver comes to rest below the surface. The subject area includes kinematics and dynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using kinematic equations to determine the diver's final velocity upon hitting the water and the subsequent deceleration while underwater. Questions arise regarding the calculation of time taken to decelerate and the relationship between work done and force.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to calculate the resistance force, with some providing alternative approaches based on work-energy principles. There is an ongoing examination of the calculations and assumptions made, particularly regarding the forces acting on the diver.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note confusion regarding the distinction between weight and mass in their calculations, and there is a suggestion that additional forces may be acting on the diver beyond the resistance force from the water.

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3. [SFHS99 5.P.37.] A 50.0 kg diver steps off a 12.0 m high diving board and drops straight down into the water. If the diver comes to rest 5.0 m below the surface of the water, determine the average resistance force exerted on the diver by the water.

Seems to me like a simple kinematic problem, so I used kinematic equations to find the Vf when it hits the water (15.32m/s), then used that as a new Vi to find the time it took to decelerate from Vi to 0 in 5 meters. (.653 sec) I then used that time to find a (de)acceleration rate for the diver, for which I got
(-)23.46 m/s^2. I then simple multiplied that by the diver's weight to get a resistance force, which was (-)1173 N. However, my online homework is telling me this is wrong! Any tips?
 
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You know her change in kinetic energy. (0 - 1/2mvf^2) It is equal to the work done (negative in this case) on her body from the surface of the water to 5.0m below. If I tell you the work done on an object and the distance through which it was done, what can you tell me about the force acting on the object across that displacement? Assuming the force is constant, or taking it to be the average force?

With the method you used...how did you calculate the time it took to slow to a stop underwater if you didn't know the acceleration in the first place?
 
ok, so I used -1/2mVf^2 to find the work done on the divers body, and got -5867.6 J. Then, since W = Fd, I divided the work done by the distance over which it was done, and got -1173.5 N. Tried both positive and negative of that, but online homework is still telling me its wrong!
 
Btw to find the time it took to slow to a stop, i used the kinematic equation Xf = Xi + 1/2(Vf+Vi)t
 
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splinter said:
Seems to me like a simple kinematic problem, so I used kinematic equations to find the Vf when it hits the water (15.32m/s), then used that as a new Vi to find the time it took to decelerate from Vi to 0 in 5 meters. (.653 sec) I then used that time to find a (de)acceleration rate for the diver, for which I got
(-)23.46 m/s^2. I then simple multiplied that by the diver's weight to get a resistance force, which was (-)1173 N. However, my online homework is telling me this is wrong! Any tips?
Multiplying the mass (not weight!) by the acceleration gives you the total force on the diver. Hint: The resistance force exerted by the water is not the only force on the diver.
 

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