Can a 37-Year-Old Succeed in University Physics Without a Math Background?

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The discussion centers around the possibility of a 37-year-old individual pursuing a university education in physics without a strong background in mathematics. Participants explore the challenges and potential pathways for someone with limited mathematical skills who has a passion for science.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses doubt about their ability to learn mathematics, which they believe is essential for studying physics.
  • Another participant asserts that physics cannot be learned without math, emphasizing the importance of mathematical skills for success in the field.
  • Some participants suggest taking introductory math or physics courses to assess capability and build confidence in mathematics.
  • There is a discussion about the relative mathematical demands of chemistry compared to physics, with one participant noting that chemistry generally requires less math.
  • A participant shares their personal experience of overcoming difficulties with math and finding success, encouraging the original poster to pursue their interests despite challenges.
  • There are expressions of camaraderie and shared experiences among participants regarding their educational journeys and struggles with math.

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Participants generally agree that mathematics is a foundational component of physics. However, there is a lack of consensus on the extent to which one can engage with physics without strong math skills, with some suggesting alternative paths in related fields like chemistry.

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Participants mention personal experiences and varying levels of mathematical proficiency, indicating that individual circumstances may significantly influence the ability to succeed in physics or related fields.

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Individuals considering a return to education in STEM fields, particularly those concerned about their mathematical abilities or age-related challenges in pursuing higher education.

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I was wondering, is it still possible for a 37 year old dude to go to the uinversity and study physics and be good at it?
My education is limited to the high school,and my memory simply sucks.
Oh! and I can't learn mathemathics.
But somehow I love science and there are days ,weeks that I study as much as I can on my own .However this ****ing Internet has hold on me, and I spend almost whole free time on message boards. What to do? :frown:
 
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You really can't learn physics without math.
 
See if you can take a fairly inexpensive math/physics course somewhere to see if you could handle taking Physics in university. I'd be inclined to believe your more capable in mathematics than you think you are.
 
Gokul43201 said:
You really can't learn physics without math.

Really? how come?
 
Gokul43201 said:
You really can't learn physics without math.

Seconded. I mean, you COULD take some introductory courses and not do a lot of math but if you want to go on in physics specifically then it's math, math and more math!

If you say you like science though, what specifically do you like? You might be able to find a program that suits your interest and isn't all that math intensive.
 
you guys are of course right math is the basis of physics,well...then I'm going to have to refresh my multiplication table. :wink:
Does chemistry demands doing lots of math?
 
There's much less math needed for chemistry. The hardest math you'll most likely come across is solving simple separable ODEs in Kinetics. You might have to solve quartic equations for euilibrium problems, but those usually can be approximated to some nearby quadratic. Some chemistry programs may require a course in point symmetries, space groups, etc. and may need some basic group theory. There may probably be one Quantum Chemistry (or Theoretical Spectroscopy) course that will need familiarity with integral calculus and some things like Fourier transforms. Other than that, it's mostly basic algebra and arithmetic.

Someone here's a Chemistry major (can't remember who)...he'll have a better idea.
 
Thanks guys for your advice and sugestions,just one question not related to the original topic: are you addicted to the internet? :cry:
 
Only to PF :redface:
 
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hey, tumor, if it is any encouragement, I am your age and planning to enter a university next year to finish my degree. (I am not a physics major, though - I am studying cognitive science). I have spent the last two or three years working on math and science and all the general ed. requirements at a community college. It's really important to be well prepared when you get into the university. Like you, I used to think I couldn't learn math, but I did it anyway, and I found success after much hard work and practice. (the really bizarre thing is that I found out I loved mathematics the most out of all my subjects!)
I have read a little bit about the statistics on the graduation success rate of returning students, and they are very favorable. If you want to pursue this, there is no reason why you shouldn't. The odds are in your favor.
I wish you luck. Hope you will wish me the same.
 
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Math Is Hard said:
hey, tumor, if it is any encouragement, I am your age and planning to enter a university next year to finish my degree. (I am not a physics major, though - I am studying cognitive science). I have spent the last two or three years working on math and science and all the general ed. requirements at a community college. It's really important to be well prepared when you get into the university. Like you, I used to think I couldn't learn math, but I did it anyway, and I found success after much hard work and practice. (the really bizarre thing is that I found out I loved mathematics the most out of all my subjects!)
I have read a little bit about the statistics on the graduation success rate of returning students, and they are very favorable. If you want to pursue this, there is no reason why you shouldn't. The odds are in your favor.
I wish you luck. Hope you will wish me the same.

Of course, good luck! to you MATH IS HARD, and thank you for encouraging words, I'm going to have to study hard from this day on,live is to short to waste it.
What a coincidence! I checked your profile and I see you were born on 1 April 1967,my birthday is on 1 september 1967, WOW :smile:
 
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tumor said:
Of course, good luck! to you MATH IS HARD, and thank you for encouraging words, I'm going to have to study hard from this day on,live is to short to waste it.
What a coincidence! I checked your profile and I see you were born on 1 April 1967,my birthday is on 1 september 1967, WOW :smile:

Neat-o mosquito! :biggrin: Thanks for the good wishes. I better go hit the books now. Big long essay test tomorrow for cultural anthro class.
 

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