Test Methods for Li Alloy Powders: Li-Al Alloy Content

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The discussion focuses on the test methods for determining the content of lithium alloy powders, specifically lithium-aluminum (Li-Al) alloys. Participants explore various analytical techniques suitable for these sensitive materials, considering their reactivity with air and humidity.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about suitable test methods for determining the content of Li-Al alloy powders, highlighting their sensitivity to air and humidity.
  • Another participant suggests that spectroscopic analysis could be performed by a laboratory.
  • A subsequent reply reiterates the suggestion of spectroscopic analysis and notes the challenges posed by the alloys' reactivity with moisture and air, questioning whether Inductively Coupled Plasma (ICP) analysis would be effective.
  • Another participant proposes using X-ray Diffraction (XRD) analysis by dispersing the powder in an inert glue to prevent reactions with oxygen or water, while cautioning about the potential error margin in composition determination due to the limitations of XRD resolution.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the appropriate testing methods, with no consensus reached on the best approach. Multiple competing methods are discussed, reflecting uncertainty about their effectiveness given the materials' properties.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of different analytical techniques, including the potential for significant error in XRD analysis and the challenges of handling air-sensitive materials.

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I need the test methods for the Li alloy powders. What type of a test is needed to determine the content of the alloy? For instance Li-Al alloy? I couldn't find a suitable test for these powders (as known, these alloy powders are air and humidity sensitive, difficult to handle)
 
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Can you not get spectroscopic analysis done by a lab ?
 
Gokul43201 said:
Can you not get spectroscopic analysis done by a lab ?

These alloys, as known, are kept in inert(Ar) atmosphere. As contact with the humidity in the air or the air itself, it immidiately form oxide or hydroxides. So this limits me to carry out ordinary determination analysis. Would ICP work in this case? Or another think is that to convert the Li-Al alloy to its oxides, and then make wet analysis... I am not sure...
 
You can disperse the powder in an inert glue (such as those typically used for powder samples) and do XRD analysis to determine composition. The glue will prevent reaction with O2 or H2O. The only problem is that XRD does not have very high resolution for determining composition. You might have an error as big as 2 or 3% depending on the quality of XRD machine itself and sample size.
 

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