Is it lucky to have a house like this?

Saint

you mean this girl?

yes, i admitted i downloaded it from porn site,
because i think she is tempting and sexy,
but just for fun.

I am a virtual Saint, not true Saint.
just a mortal man.

plum

It also indicates low self esteem. People need outer superficial extravagance to compensate for inner hollowness. I can see this in Saint's posts.

Tsu

Well, no. That was NOT the picture. Although I'm sure the Christian minister of you church would be THRILLED to know one of his parishoners frequents a PORN site. You're the perverted type of indivudual that give Christians a real bad name, ya know that? You don't have a clue of what being a Christian is all about.

Saint

Anyone here NEVER felt the Pressure of life?
When the prices of petrol, electricity, water, etc.... daily needs increased except your salary, how do you feel?

BoulderHead

Hahaha, well that tears it then, you are definately the funniest person at PF !

Loren Booda

Saint may be capitalism's worst nightmare.

recon

This reminds me of the Drake Equation.

BoulderHead

Like going to a porn site, playing with myself, then looking down on those immoral women for having caused a hideous and involuntary erection in an otherwise holy man !
(to borrow a phrase from St. Augustine)

...there ought to be a law, hahaha

singleton

Agreed!

Quick story that might help:
I grew up pretty poor. I didn't get Christmas presents growing up for many years (never blamed my parents though) and it was hard because I wanted to enjoy it when other kids I knew had new crap. I started working a little too young (first paper route by age 7, had to have my parents sign off on it).

By the time I was a teenager I became enveloped with the idea of making lots of money. As fate would have it my family came into quite a lot of money from relatives who passed. I realized after a while that it could bring no happiness and I'd much rather have those relatives alive (of course, I never wanted them to die in the first place! that was just how the money came into play...)

Money never changed who we are as people and I like that. My parents still haven't taken a trip in 25+ years. They didn't go buy a mansion and yacht. I'm glad that I learned this early on in my life and didn't trudge through it becoming a business major like I had wanted to at the time. As sad as the deaths were it helped me grow in many more ways than I thought possible!

singleton

Christianity is all about not judging people and loving them unconditionally

plum

Sure, but you're talking about wants, not needs.

Saint

why must we stop at what we NEED?
why can't we pursue what we WANT more than what we need?

When we measure length, we have a standard reference, e.g. ruler which is calibrated.
Now, when you judge my words, what Frame of Reference do you use?
Based on what standard you evaluate me?
Why do you think I am wrong?
Your set value is not absolute, not qualified to evalute mine and say that I am Shallow.

It is absolutely nothing wrong to desire for better materials in our life.
Nothing morally wrong to eat every meal in restaurant if you can afford it, the only concern is your helath.

Saint

Immorality = doing harm to oneself and others.

Based on this definition, Nothing wrong to pursue materials.

Loren Booda

Saint,
Unless you deny them to those with a legitimate need.

Saint

I take pity on poor people, but it is not my fault to cause them poor.
I am blameless for the inequity in the society,
my pursuing of better life with abundant materials does not harm anyone,
therefore, my concience is guiltless.

But that's not my only goal,
I want to help people and hope for no return-----------Honestly!

JasonRox

You need to just enjoy and appreciate what you have.

Love life.

Note: You do not love life. Yes, I do know.

Saint

Nothing wrong to pursue richness in terms of money, this what a Typical American ask for...

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