How Does Entropy Change in an Isothermal Compression of an Ideal Gas?

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The discussion revolves around the entropy change during an isothermal compression of an ideal gas. The scenario involves 1 mol of gas being compressed at a constant temperature of 400 K, with specific initial and final pressures, while being in contact with a heat reservoir at 300 K.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the first law of thermodynamics and the integral for calculating entropy change. There are attempts to express heat transfer in terms of volume and pressure, and questions arise regarding the calculation of entropy change for both the gas and the reservoir.

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Some participants have provided guidance on integrating the expressions for heat transfer and entropy change. There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between work done on the gas, heat transfer, and changes in internal energy. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered, particularly regarding the role of the reservoir and the assumptions of the isothermal process.

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Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the assumption of a frictionless piston and the isolation of the system from the outside world, which may affect heat exchange considerations.

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Can anyone help me with this, please?

1. 1 mol of an ideal gas is compressed slowly and isothermally at 400 K in a piston-cylinder arrangement. Initial pressure = 100 kPa, final pressure 1000 kPa. The system is surrounded by a resevoir at 300 K such that heat exchange can take place between the piston-cylinder arrangement and the resevoir. System is isolated, so no heat exchange with outside world.

Calculate the entropy change of the gas, resevoir and universe if:

i. the piston is frictionless.

I'm stuck trying to do the entropy change for the gas. If I manage to do it, I should be able to do the rest.

I know delta S = INT dQ/T (haven't used tex before)

Also, from the 1st law: delta U = Qin + Won

For an isothermal change, delta U = 0 (as U depends on T only)

=> Qin = -Won

=> Qin = INT P dV

I'm not sure where to go from there, cos I can't put dQ = P dV in the integral above, can I (then substitute P = nRT/V, obviously)?
 
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Sure. It says in the exercise that the gas is compressed slowly and isothermally, so there always is an equilibrium. nRT/V can be put into the integral, making Q = nRT * INT (dV/V) from V1 to V2. (Which makes Q = nRT *ln(V2/V1).
Using relative volumes is enough here. Good luck!
 
Ok, thanks :).
 
I'm stuck again. How do I calculate the entropy change for the resevoir now?

1st law: delta U = Qin + Won

Won = 0, right? So delta U = Qin and I'm stuck :/.
 
Alright, you already showed us that delta U = 0, since it's an ideal gas. So Qin = -Won. In this case the Work on the gas is positive, the piston has to do work on the gas to compress it, so heat has to be removed from the gas, which follows fromthe formula.
Won = - INT P dV ---> so Qin = INT P dV = nRT * INT dV/V
So not Won = 0 but delta U = 0. This is because it's an isothermal process, which already suggests no change of internal energy (in the case of an ideal gas that is).
Now solve the integral and put relative values for V2 and V1 into it. There you go!
 

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