Efficient Surveying Techniques for AutoCad Blueprint Creation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges and techniques involved in creating blueprints from survey data, particularly in the context of AutoCAD. Participants share their experiences and frustrations with the process, exploring various methods and tools used in drafting and layout creation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express frustration with the process of connecting survey points to create blueprints, likening it to "playing connect the dots."
  • Several contributors mention their experience with AutoCAD versions, noting that creating blueprints from scratch is a particularly disliked task.
  • Some participants have transitioned to using more advanced systems like IDEAS for their work, indicating a shift in tools over time.
  • There are suggestions about using number codes to label points and automate the drawing of lines between them, which some find helpful.
  • Participants discuss the importance of labeling points accurately, with anecdotes about mislabeling leading to confusion in the drafting process.
  • Some contributors mention using sketches and digital photos to aid memory and improve the efficiency of the drafting process.
  • There are differing opinions on the effectiveness of using satellite photos for laying out points, with some finding it beneficial while others rely on more traditional methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the challenges of creating blueprints from survey data, but there are multiple competing views on the best techniques and tools to use. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective methods for labeling and organizing survey points.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention limitations in their approaches, such as time constraints and the potential for mislabeling points. There is also a recognition that the effectiveness of certain methods may depend on individual preferences and specific project requirements.

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I went out and surveyed a bunch of gas stations. I "shot in" all the points I needed in order to come home and draw a blueprint of each one. sounds really easy, but now I'm sitting here looking at a bunch of dots on the screen and trying to play connect the dots and it is one of the most frustrating things I've ever had to do. I was really good at this when I was 6, but unless this gas station is supposed to look like a kangaroo I'm in trouble.
 
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Yep. I've got several years under my belt. Everything from R14 onward.

My least favorite task was creating blueprints from scratch. Nothing sucks worse.
 
Here as well ... have been spending too many years connecting the dots and trying to built the most complex things using primitive constructs. Nowadays doing most of my work in systems like IDEAS though.
 
I use it pretty much every day. Fortunately, in my line of work, we get floorplans from our architects and only have to lay-out ductwork. And when we do have to generate a floorplan (or an existing system layout) from scratch, we have some newbies do it.
 
Russ Watters, i sent you a Private Message a couple of days ago discussing your line of work. However, you never replied. I am not sure whether you received it or not.
 
yep. I got 2 years under my belt. Did the blueprints for my H.S. actually.

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Just set OSNAP to NODE and PLINE away! Accidentally ERASE something? OOPS it back. :-p
 
you did label the points didn't you
we allso sketch the topo and place the points on the sketch in the field

we use number codes to autodraw lines between points
like 101 is a first building corner 102 a mid point and 103 an end [same as begining]
 
I've also been working with it since R14. I'm not too good at starting from nothing, but I'm not too bad at adding items once the scale is determined and the units are all set.
 
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ray b said:
you did label the points didn't you
we allso sketch the topo and place the points on the sketch in the field

we use number codes to autodraw lines between points
like 101 is a first building corner 102 a mid point and 103 an end [same as begining]
Where's the fun in that? Where's the challenge? We had to do 30 gas stations in 14 days. So we were running from one to the other, and this may have contributed to my problems. I also seem to have a talent of mislabeling one point per setup, or shooting either 2 or 4 points on a curve.
 
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one clue is the elevation
if the height is the same then group them

1/2 hour sketch saves many hours
a few digital cam pic will help jog memory too

but LABEL the points!
how long does [nw bl cor] take
 
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ray b said:
one clue is the elevation
if the height is the same then group them

1/2 hour sketch saves many hours
a few digital cam pic will help jog memory too

but LABEL the points!
how long does [nw bl cor] take
the best labeling I've seen so far was by the guy we just fired. He labeled a bunch of curb-foc-for 'face of curb' then he labeled an underground fiber optic line foc for fiber optic cable. that turned into a bit of a mess.
 
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thats why we use number codes
standerd features are listed on a sheet and each has it's own number

google search for sat photos,
the ones you can zoom into the site
and lay your points over the sat photo of the gas station
 
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dekoi said:
Russ Watters, i sent you a Private Message a couple of days ago discussing your line of work. However, you never replied. I am not sure whether you received it or not.
Hmm... I did get it and thought I had replied. Maybe I just meant to reply. Sorry about that...
 
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ray b said:
thats why we use number codes
standerd features are listed on a sheet and each has it's own number

google search for sat photos,
the ones you can zoom into the site
and lay your points over the sat photo of the gas station
lol, you are funny.
sat photos, lists of features, organization.
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