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May6-11, 06:49 PM   #18
 
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"Simple" geometry problem


It doesn't equal 2r, my comment was if it does then that's the answer. What makes this problem "impossible" is that H or J is not fixed. phi becomes some angle but we don't know where the vertex is. AD can be thought of as a radius going through an angle of zero with AC through theta/2 to AI. Without H or J fixed at some distance this can't be solved. We were given a two stipulation fact: JD bisects delta AND meets AE at angle phi.
May6-11, 06:57 PM   #19
 
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It doesn't equal 2r, my comment was if it does then that's the answer. What makes this problem "impossible" is that H or J is not fixed. phi becomes some angle but we don't know where the vertex is. AD can be thought of as a radius going through an angle of zero with AC through theta/2 to AI. Without H or J fixed at some distance this can't be solved. We were given a two stipulation fact: JD bisects delta AND meets AE at angle phi.
F, H and J are fixed. I'm studying this particular case.
May7-11, 04:29 PM   #20
 
You have 10 (relevant) variables in a quadrilateral.

4 side lengths
4 vertex angles
2 diagonal lengths

You say you know four of these -one angle, two sides and one diagonal.

Attached are six equations (10 including the knowns) for the 6 unknowns.

These equations apply to a general quadrilateral. They cna be greatly simplified if the vertices can be shown to lie on a circle as I have already mentioned.

I have relabelled them to conform to conventional order. Theta is conventionally used for the intersection angle of the diagonals.

You can solve them at your leisure.
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May8-11, 06:34 PM   #21
 
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You have 10 (relevant) variables in a quadrilateral.

4 side lengths
4 vertex angles
2 diagonal lengths

You say you know four of these -one angle, two sides and one diagonal.

Attached are six equations (10 including the knowns) for the 6 unknowns.

These equations apply to a general quadrilateral. They cna be greatly simplified if the vertices can be shown to lie on a circle as I have already mentioned.

I have relabelled them to conform to conventional order. Theta is conventionally used for the intersection angle of the diagonals.

You can solve them at your leisure.
Thank you, but I think one of your 6 equations might be dependent of the others. (equation 6, I think)
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