Find Slope of Tangent Line at P(1,2): Answer = 5/2

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The discussion revolves around finding the slope of the tangent line to the curve defined by the equation y = x(x^2 + 3)^(1/2) at the point P(1,2). Participants explore the implications of taking the square root in the context of derivatives and the definition of functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially calculates the derivative and considers multiple potential values for the slope due to the square root, questioning how to determine the correct answer from the choices provided.
  • Another participant clarifies that the square root function yields only the positive value, thus eliminating ambiguity in the slope calculation.
  • A further contribution emphasizes that the square root is defined as a function that returns only the positive root of a number, despite the existence of two solutions to the equation x^2 = a.
  • In response to a question about the nature of functions, a participant distinguishes between the general definition of a function and specific properties like continuity and one-to-one mappings, asserting that a function must be well-defined.

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Participants generally agree on the definition of the square root function and its implications for the problem, but there is some debate regarding the broader definitions and properties of functions.

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The discussion touches on the definitions of functions and the implications of differentiability and continuity, but these concepts are not fully resolved or agreed upon by all participants.

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Hi,

I was looking at a problem from an old test and I got confused about something.

Q. Find the slope of the tangent line to the given curve at a given point:

y = x(x^2 + 3)^1/2 ; P(1,2)

S. First I found the derivative:
[(x^2 + 3)^1/2] + [(x^2)(x^2 + 3)^-1/2]

Plugged in the values for x and y at the given point:
[(4)^1/2] + [(4)^-1/2]

The choices for answers were:
a) 2 b) -5/2 c) 3/2 d) 5/2 e) none of these

Square root of 4 can be + OR - 2, no?

That would mean I can have 4 possible solutions:
(4/2) + (1/2) = 5/2
(4/2) + (-1/2) = 3/2
(-4/2) + (1/2) = -3/2
(-4/2) + (-1/2) = -5/2

Since 3 of these are listed as choices, how did I pick the right one? (I chose d)5/2 and it was marked correct)

Forgive me if this is shockingly stupid...I am trying to review all my calculus and physics to start classes up again in the winter.
 
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Of course, the original equation must also hold true, which means that (4)^1/2 can only be +2
 
In addition, "square root" is a FUNCTION which means it can have only one value. The square root of any positive number, a, is, by definition, the POSITIVE number, x, such that x2= a.

Of course, x2= a has TWO solutions: they are [sqrt](a) and -[sqrt](a).
 
Originally posted by HallsofIvy
In addition, "square root" is a FUNCTION which means it can have only one value. The square root of any positive number, a, is, by definition, the POSITIVE number, x, such that x2= a.

Of course, x2= a has TWO solutions: they are [sqrt](a) and -[sqrt](a).


When you say FUNCTION, do you actually mean CONTINOUS ONE-TO-ONE FUNCTION?
 
When I say FUNCTION, believe it or not, I mean FUNCTION. I do not meant "continuous" since that is not part of the definition of FUNCTION, although, in this problem, since the original post assumed the function was differentiable, it must be continuous. Nor do I mean "one-to-one". I consider "f(x)= x<sup>2</sup>", which is NOT one-to-one (f(2)= f(-2)), a perfectly good function. I do require that functions on the real numbers be "well-defined"- that is, that a single value of x can give only one value of f(x). That is, after all, the distinction between a "function" and "relation".
 

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