Ice Surfing: Solving the Physics of Motion

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The discussion focuses on the physics of motion involved when a boy jumps onto a plank on a frozen pond. Key calculations include determining the center of mass, moment of inertia, and applying conservation of momentum to analyze the plank's movement post-impact. The initial assumption that the plank would not move due to the perpendicular trajectory of the boy is challenged, emphasizing the need to consider three-dimensional motion and the effects of angular momentum. The conversation highlights the complexities of analyzing motion in a frictionless environment.

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Ice surfing!

Hi, this is the problem:

A small boy places a plank of wood on a frozen pond and then, taking a run up, jumps onto one end of the plank. If the plank is perpendicular to the boys trajectory and there is no friction between the plank and the ice, How will the plank move after the boy has landed on it?

This is what I was thinking of doing:
-Calculate the center of mass
-Calculate the moment of inertia (rotating around the center of mass)
-Calculate the speed using conservation of momentum ( mVo = (m+M)V ).
-Equal the boys initial kinetic energy to the final kinetic energy (using V calculated earlier) plus the rotational energy and then finding the systems angular speed.

The problem is that this obviously flawed thinking doesn't take into account the fact that the plank is at a certain angle initially, and intuitively I can see that if the plank were parallel to the boys trajectory it wouldn't rotate at all, so i am obviously missing something.

I'd appreciate any help :biggrin:
 
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If the trajectory is perpendicular to the plank, wouldn't the velocity of the boy be perpendicular to the plank (and the surface of the ice)? Which means the force on the plank will be perpendicular to the surface and so the plank won't move at all. (Except through the ice maybe).
 
Galileo: Think in three dimensions!
 
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