Japan radiation causing tornadoes?

Studiot

That was not the direct statement made in my original post in this thread.

Since you are not the only one who has difficulty with my original statement I will try to rephrase with amplification.

It was stated in response to the OP that the energy released by the disaster was insignificant compared to the weather energy in Tornados.

I pointed out (rather briefly) that it is not necessary to meet the weather head on in order to affect it.

That was, and remains, my main point.

I offered Lorenz theory as an example and subsequently other examples in later posts.

I also stated that I did not know if the answer to the OP was affirmative or negative.

Algr

By definition, you can never use the butterfly effect to link a specific cause to a specific effect - except comparing one computer simulation to another or hypothetically perfect time travel.

You seem to be pointing in a direction that leads to blaming Fukushima for tornado damage, and the butterfly effect can't be used that way. In real life AFAIK, the only real world use of the butterfly effect is to check the validity of computer simulations. If making small changes actually changes the result, then neither result is valid.

The Fucashima event is too small and too recent to have such an effect. As others said above, all sorts of explosions or other common events would change the weather as much as Fukushima.

A speculation: I think the butterfly effect could only change one result to another of equal probability. Thoughts?

DaveC426913

Oh. I see. As you say, we don't necessarily need to meet the weather head-on. If we can figure out the initial conditions (that this, and all, weather is sensitive to), we could stop tornadoes before they start.

I see your point.


But do I think Borek addressed this in post 2. The energy gradient is there; you can't avoid it. As long as you have these huge amount of energies being moved about, you won't be able to tweak some initial condition and have it prevent tornadoes; they are pretty much inevitable with that much energy.

You could tweak it and have a tornado occur elsewhere, but of course you have no idea whether you just turned a non-lethal desert tornado into a lethal town-squashing tornado or the other way around.

rockhouse

So it's a resounding 'no' then.

Ok, i was just curious. I know alot of other factors play into weather patterns, but was curious if any radiation could be the spark that lights the fuse where the other factors are already present.

Thanks guys.