Multiple mass-spring-damper system

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The discussion revolves around a multiple mass-spring-damper system with three levels, where a force simulating an earthquake is applied to the ground level. Participants are exploring the forces acting on each level of the system and the implications of these forces on the system's dynamics.

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  • The original poster outlines the forces acting on each mass in the system and expresses uncertainty about whether all forces have been accounted for. Other participants provide equations of motion for the system and clarify the roles of the variables involved.

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Participants are actively discussing the setup of the problem, with some providing equations and clarifications. The original poster is seeking further guidance on how to incorporate a driving force and the implications of initial displacements of the springs.

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The original poster mentions the assumption that the springs are fully relaxed and questions how to make the system dynamic. There is also a correction regarding the definition of the driving force.

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I posted this in the general forum but it probably belongs here.
This is a tricky one!

I'm unsure about the forces on the ground level.

The problem is a 2-spring-damper system with three levels. A ground level, level 1 and level 2. Then a force is applied to the ground level simulating an Earth quake (eg the force could be sinusoidal). See the attachment for a diagram.

These are the forces I have resolved:

-level 2 mass:
gravitational force, m0*g (down)
Spring Force2, K1*(x1-x0) (up)
Damper Force2, b1*(x1'-x2') (up)
Inertial Force, m*x0'' (down)

-level 1 mass:
gravitational force, m*g (down)
Spring Force1, K1*(x2-x1) (up)
Damper Force1, b1*(x2'-x1')(up)
Inertial Force, m*x1'' (down)
Spring Force2, K1*(x1-x0) (down)
Damper Force2, b1*(x1'-x2') (down)

-level ground mass:
driving force (earthquake) = some function eg sine
g-force, mg (down)
Spring Force1, K1*(x2-x1) (down)
Damper Force1, b1*(x2'-x1')(down)
Inertial Force = m*x2'' (down)

I have tried to solve this using simulink, but for the positions of each level they fall towards negative oblivion. I am thinking I either have forgotten some force added too many.

Have I left anything out? *thinking*
James
 

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Hi, this looks a bit like active suspension control...

i get following equations :

m0x0" = -k1(x0-x1)-b1(x0'-x1') + U
m1x1" = k1(x0-x1) + b1(x0'-x1') - U - k1(x1-x2) - b1(x1'-x2')
m2x2" = k1(x1-x2) + b1(x1'-x2') - U

Ofcourse you need to add the overall gravitational force which you implemented correctly in my opinion.

x : position
x' : velocity
x" : acceleration

just for clarity...

regards
marlon
 
m0 is level two
m1 is level 1
m2 is groundlevel

Just to make sure, ok ?

regards
marlon
 
Thanks Marlon for the reply. What about when I add a driving force on ground level?
This is assuming that the springs are fully relaxed? I have calculted the displacements due to the weight of each level. What should be done to may this system dynamic?

Thanks
James

edit: oops for some reason I thought U=mg. U= driving force! But still does this consider the initial displacement of the springs?
 
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