Need help with retro synthetic analysis?

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The discussion revolves around the topic of retrosynthetic analysis in organic chemistry, focusing on how to approach complex synthetic problems and the resources available for learning this technique. Participants share their experiences and seek assistance with specific assignment problems.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe retrosynthetic analysis as a method that involves breaking down a final product into simpler starting materials, emphasizing the importance of synthons and functional group interconversions.
  • One participant suggests that understanding retrosynthetic analysis may come more naturally after attempting complex synthetic problems directly.
  • A participant mentions a specific textbook, "Designing Organic Synthesis" by Stuart Warren, as a useful resource for learning the logic behind retrosynthetic analysis.
  • A final year student expresses difficulty with assignment problems related to organic chemistry and requests help from others in the thread.
  • Another participant offers to discuss the problems without providing direct answers, aiming to encourage critical thinking.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of retrosynthetic analysis and the value of resources for learning it, but there is no consensus on the best approach to mastering the technique or on the specific problems faced by the final year student.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference personal experiences and educational backgrounds, which may influence their perspectives on the topic. The discussion does not resolve the specific challenges faced by the final year student.

Who May Find This Useful

Students in organic chemistry courses, particularly those struggling with retrosynthetic analysis or seeking collaborative support for assignments.

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can any1 help me?...does anybody know how to do retro synthetic analysis?
 
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Yes, I have some knowledge about it. Retrosynthetic analysis is done by going from the final product to smaller and cheaper starting materials. Synthons, functional group interconversions and cleavages play a crucial role.

You may want to view http://www.cmbi.ru.nl/cheminf/ira/strat.shtml for a good explanation.

Tell me an example, and I'll try to solve it for you.
 
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It's common sense. I would suggest that you first attempt complex synthetic problems themselves, perhaps the retrosynthetic idea will make sense to you afterwards.
 
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Of course, suf7, please try these first in light of the information I gave you, and if you're stuck, call for help. GCT, thanks to you about reminding this.
 
Are you in first semester organic? We just covered this.
 
A great text on learning the logic of retrosynthetic analysis is Designing Organic Synthesis by Stuart Warren (Wiley, 1978). It's set up like a workbook and helps you to learn and understand retrosynthetic disconnections.

Here is a link:
 
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i am a final year student and am having problems in getting to grips with some problems that i have been set for an assignment, and was wondering if anyone culd help me with them?

Organic chemistry is my weakness, hence the plea for help?

would anyone be willing to have a look at the problems and possibly help me?

any help would be much appreciated!
 
Send the questions, and we'll discuss them. I won't give the exact answers, but rather make you think about them.
 
i'll post them up asap! - thanks again
 

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