What Happens if the Presidential Election Ends in a Tie?

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The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of a presidential election ending in a tie, particularly focusing on the implications for the electoral process and the role of Congress in selecting the President and Vice President. Participants explore historical precedents and current political dynamics related to the electoral college and party control.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention a ~4% chance of a tie in the electoral college based on recent polls and margins of error.
  • There is a suggestion that if a tie occurs, Congress would decide the outcome, with the House choosing the President and the Senate choosing the Vice President.
  • Historical references are made to the second presidential election where Adams and Jefferson had a similar situation, highlighting the rarity of such events.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of a Democratic majority in the Senate, which could affect the outcome if the election were to go to Congress.
  • Some participants speculate about various potential outcomes, including the possibility of Edwards becoming the acting President if neither major candidate secures a majority.
  • There is a humorous tone in discussing the implications of various candidate pairings, such as Bush/Edwards or Kerry/Cheney.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the likelihood of a tie and the political implications of such an event. There is no consensus on the outcomes or the potential for specific candidates to emerge as leaders.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the current political landscape, including the status of Senate races and the control of the House, but these points remain speculative and contingent on future developments.

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According to statesticians, based on the most recent polls and the margins of error, there is a ~4% chance of a tie in the electoral college.

A buddy of mine and I have been giggling about this for a few days.

If there is a tie (or if Nader somehow gets a few electoral votes and Bush/Kerry remain close), since no candidate will have a majority, it'll go to Congress.

The House chooses the President. The Senate chooses the VP.

How would you like to see Bush and Edwards in the White House?

Even better, how much should they charge to watch Cheney's head explode?

:smile:
 
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So there about a 5% chance that we'll all be waiting for Hawaii to decide the winner this time ! :eek:
 
enigma said:
According to statesticians, based on the most recent polls and the margins of error, there is a ~4% chance of a tie in the electoral college.

A buddy of mine and I have been giggling about this for a few days.

If there is a tie (or if Nader somehow gets a few electoral votes and Bush/Kerry remain close), since no candidate will have a majority, it'll go to Congress.

The House chooses the President. The Senate chooses the VP.

This hasn't happened in some 200 years now, what ?
 
If I recall correctly, it happened during the second election. Adams vs. Jefferson. Jefferson actually became the vice president to John Quincy. This was one of the only, if only, administrations to contain leaders from two different parties.
 
That would be great! (Bush/Edwards)
Unfortunately it doesn't look like there's going to be a Democratic majority in The Senate.
 
check said:
That would be great! (Bush/Edwards)
Unfortunately it doesn't look like there's going to be a Democratic majority in The Senate.


Imagine Kerry/Cheney...or would it be better said Cheney/Kerry?
 
Well, Kerry/Cheney won't happen, because the Democrats don't have control of the House.

I thought that the Dems were supposed to maintain marginal control of the Senate... ?
 
enigma said:
Well, Kerry/Cheney won't happen, because the Democrats don't have control of the House.

I thought that the Dems were supposed to maintain marginal control of the Senate... ?


But still, it would be entertaining.

Hence why it would be Bush/Edwards.
 
enigma said:
Well, Kerry/Cheney won't happen, because the Democrats don't have control of the House.

I thought that the Dems were supposed to maintain marginal control of the Senate... ?

They have a chance, but it's going to be very tough.

The "too close to call" states in the Senate race right now are : South Dakota, North Carolina, South Carolina, Louisiana and Florida - where Democrats retired - Alaska, Kentucky, Oklahoma and Colorado - where GOP senators resigned.

Democrats need to win 7 of these 9 states for a majoirty.
 
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This morning, CNN mentioned one possibility in which neither Bush or Kerry get the required majority - this is after the vote has gone to Congress - and Edwards ends up as the acting President! :smile:

I guess the three states having Senators from opposing parties could cause this scenario, however unlikely it may be.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
This morning, CNN mentioned one possibility in which neither Bush or Kerry get the required majority - this is after the vote has gone to Congress - and Edwards ends up as the acting President! :smile:

Now THAT would be awesome. lol
 

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