Benefits of Oxidizing Gold: Rust Prevention & More

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the benefits and methods of oxidizing gold, particularly in the context of preventing rust and its applications in laboratory settings. Participants explore various aspects of gold oxidation, including its implications for refining, chemical processes, and practical applications in experimental setups.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the premise that oxidizing gold prevents rust, noting that gold is typically valued for its resistance to oxidation.
  • One participant mentions that gold oxidation is primarily used for refining purposes, particularly in achieving high purity for conductors.
  • Another participant discusses the chemical processes involved in oxidizing gold ores, including the use of Aqua Regia and cyanide, leading to very pure gold.
  • A participant expresses a need to oxidize a thin gold layer on a glass prism for a specific application, seeking advice on methods and expected outcomes.
  • Some participants suggest that any liquid capable of oxidizing gold would likely remove it from the substrate, proposing low pressure air plasma as an alternative method.
  • There is a discussion about the limitations of UV cleaners for oxidizing gold, with suggestions that UV-generated ozone and oxygen radicals might be involved in cleaning rather than oxidizing the gold itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the oxidation of gold, particularly regarding its necessity and implications. While some acknowledge the utility of oxidation in refining and specific applications, others emphasize gold's inherent resistance to oxidation, leading to an unresolved debate on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of oxidizing gold without removing it from substrates, highlighting the need for specific methods and the challenges posed by chemical knowledge limitations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to researchers and practitioners in chemistry and materials science, particularly those working with gold in experimental settings or seeking methods for surface modification.

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What are the benefits of oxidizing gold? I suppose that prevents it from rusting, but are there any other benefits?
 
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I thought one of the reasons gold was so useful was because it didn't oxidize.

then again I'm not a chemist, so maybe someone's discovered that gold really dose oxidize.
 
Gold oxidization is mainly used for refining purposes, as it is sometimes not sufficiently pure, especially for conductors. Gold amalgams (alloys with mercury) can be broken down by oxidization.

In addition, gold ores are processed with oxidization with "King's water" ([itex]\displaystyle 3HCl + HNO_3[/itex]) and treated with cyanide, afterwards reduced with zinc rods; so very pure (up to 99.99%) quality gold can be prepared.

As imabug said, gold isn't oxidized, since it is an inert metal; you hardly prepare a [itex][AuCl_4]^-[/itex] complex and can easily reduce it to the metal with elemental potassium, etc.
 
I'm quite late to this discussion but actually it's very relevant to some recent issues that have come up in my lab:

I'm looking to oxidize a 50nm gold layer on the back of a BK-7 glass prism. Despite being quite familiar with the use of Aqua Regia, I want to oxidize gold and not remove it from the back of the prism.

Our UV cleaner isn't powerful enough to oxidize it, so I've been thinking of using Nitric acid. Can anybody give me an idea of how long this should take, how much gold will be oxidized, etc.? I'm trying to get an idea of how this should go before I actually proceed.

Thanks
 
Any liquid capable of oxidizing gold will certainly remove it from the glass. Think low pressure air plasma for your application.
 
chemisttree said:
Any liquid capable of oxidizing gold will certainly remove it from the glass. Think low pressure air plasma for your application.

Seconding this; gold oxide is soluble in aqueous solutions.
 
Thank you for your assistance.

This is a bit of a problem then, and my complete lack of Chemistry knowledge compounds this.

My ultimate goal is the deposition of DPPC (a membrane protein) on to gold by vesicle fusion. The paper that I've been referencing claims they used a gold substrate that was oxidized by UV lamp... As I said, apparently our UV cleaner isn't powerful enough to do this, and as was pointed out, oxidation by acqueous solution is not an option...

Perhaps you can expand on this low pressure air plasma? I'm not familiar with it.

Thank you
 
Here it is...

http://www.3dtllc.com/plasmadyne.html"
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TFR-4F2V57F-2&_user=10&_coverDate=02%2F01%2F2005&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1254629359&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=49c9b1720182cd1e2d33919bea90656b"
http://surfxtechnologies.com/?gclid=CIbrl5frwKACFQdY2godMHccSw"
http://www.tantec.com/Corona-and-Plasma-Treatment-products/Surface-treaters/corona-treatment-and-plasma-treatment.html"

Cleans and oxidizes in one easy step.
 
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FiberOptix said:
Thank you for your assistance.

This is a bit of a problem then, and my complete lack of Chemistry knowledge compounds this.

My ultimate goal is the deposition of DPPC (a membrane protein) on to gold by vesicle fusion. The paper that I've been referencing claims they used a gold substrate that was oxidized by UV lamp... As I said, apparently our UV cleaner isn't powerful enough to do this, and as was pointed out, oxidation by acqueous solution is not an option...

Perhaps you can expand on this low pressure air plasma? I'm not familiar with it.

Thank you

Almost surely they meant that the gold was exposed to UV-generated ozone and oxygen radicals, and that it was the organic contaminants that were oxidized (and volatalized) to leave the gold as clean as possible before deposition. This is a common procedure.
 

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