Is Space and Time Discrete According to Eugene Savov's Theory of Interaction?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of space and time as proposed by Eugene Savov's theory of interaction, specifically whether they are discrete or quantized. Participants explore the implications of this theory on Zeno's paradoxes and the structure of matter, engaging in a mix of theoretical and conceptual analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that Savov's theory suggests space and time are discrete, resolving Zeno's paradoxes by proposing a finite structure to reality.
  • Others question the validity of the theory, suggesting that Newton's calculus already addressed Zeno's paradoxes and that quantized space and time face significant challenges.
  • A participant argues that quantized values are typically scale invariant, raising concerns about the compatibility of quantization with the nature of length and time.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the proposed structure of matter in Savov's theory is self-similar and fractal, suggesting that qualities like space and time emerge through observation.
  • There is mention of universal asymmetry in Savov's theory, where matter becomes denser toward its source, contributing to a new understanding of the universe.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no consensus reached. Some support the idea of discrete space and time as proposed by Savov, while others challenge the theory and highlight existing solutions to Zeno's paradoxes. Disagreement exists regarding the implications of quantization and scale invariance.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the discussion, including the dependence on definitions of quantization and scale invariance, as well as the unresolved nature of the mathematical implications of Savov's theory.

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The nature of space and time is discrete (quantum) as shown by Eugene Savov’s theory of interaction [1] in which Zeno’s paradoxes are considered. After assuming discrete space and time, the paradoxes are trivially solved. I cannot understand what’s that fuss about them. The point of these paradoxes is that the infinite divisibility is impossible if motion is to exist. The cure is to make everything finite (quantum), not arbitrary large or small, because it is self-defined.

Eugene Savov shows that matter moves 3D-spirally faster inward, attracts itself and repels from itself, thus creating the finite and hence discrete sources of reality [1]. They contract and expand, oscillate at scales of their own and synchronize to unfold to similar ones [1]. The mysterious craving of nature for synchronization [2] can be accounted in this way. The found all-building self-reproducing and self-similar discrete (quantum) 3D-spiral swirls of matter depending on their size are seen as galaxies, stars, planets, atoms, electrons, light, space, time and everything else. The perception continuity is created, according to Eugene Savov, from finite objects that appear fast enough in one’s brain like movie frames. We generate Zeno’s paradoxes from the perception of continuity by rendering it in mathematical terms like infinitely divisible space intervals.

1. Savov, E., Theory of Interaction, Geones Books, 2002.
2. Strogatz, S., Sync: The Emerging Science of Spontaneous Order, Hyperion, 2003
 
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You lost me on the first sentence.
Are you meaning to say that space
and time are quantized?
 
There is a specific forum for crackpottery. That is, if you're finished spamming sciforums with it.
 
I don't know if Eugene Savov realized this but Newton's calculus solved Zeno's paradox a long time ago.
 
There are serious problems with the idea that space and time are quantized. Quantized values are almost always scale invariant, and length and time are both scale quantities. Action, angular momentum, electric charge and velocity parameter are such quantities.

This is an idea which has been tried many times by many people and found wanting.
 
On scale invariance

Tyger,
The point of this strange theory of interaction is that the proposed structure of matter is self-similar, fractal and therefore scale invariant. The assumption is that the qualities like space and time are created in the process of observation.
 
"You lost me on the first sentence.
Are you meaning to say that space
and time are quantized?"

The scale of quantization is what makes you see things as continuous and discrete. After seeing continuous space and time background, you may introduce continuous mathematical spaces and then find paradoxes in them due to their departure from the self-consistent (finite and discrete) structure of reality.
 


Originally posted by clicky
Tyger,
The point of this strange theory of interaction is that the proposed structure of matter is self-similar, fractal and therefore scale invariant. The assumption is that the qualities like space and time are created in the process of observation.

Scale invariance is one of the most important broken symmetries in Nature, and any competent theory would have to account for that fact.
 
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Scale invariance is one of the most important broken symmetries in Nature, and any competent theory would have to account for that fact.
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In fact Eugene Savov's theory of interaction introduces universal asymmetry because everything becomes denser toward its source. The self-definiteness and hence self-similarity of the source reveals a new picture of the universe.
 

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