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Jul8-11, 09:40 AM   #35
 
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Parallel voltage sources circuit


But the unit you deduced for the power looks very powerful indeed!


But..... the 5 ohm resistor is not between A and B...
Ah, I see the errors of my ways

I know what to do! *rubs hang together in an evil fashion*

Let me find Ptotal first. Then I shall have the answer, and all the smurfs will be mine!!!!

((PS. Rtotal ends up being 6.33333 ohms ))
Jul8-11, 10:13 AM   #36
 
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ILS, perhaps you should have specified the particular component (or components, or path) for which you wanted the power dissipation. Technically, ALL of the components are between nodes A and B, as there is are paths that will take you from A to B through all of them.
Very true!

I intended to ask for the power dissipation in the 4 ohm resistor that is between A and B.



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Ah, I see the errors of my ways

I know what to do! *rubs hang together in an evil fashion*

Let me find Ptotal first. Then I shall have the answer, and all the smurfs will be mine!!!!

((PS. Rtotal ends up being 6.33333 ohms ))
This looks *almost* like a Norton equivalent circuit!

I give you the smurfs. All of them are yours, you *evil* you!
Total power and domination!

Btw, the total power is the sum of the powers dissipated in each of the 3 resistors (I get 259 W).
Jul8-11, 10:22 AM   #37
 
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I intended to ask for the power dissipation in the 4 ohm resistor that is between A and B.
Easy peasy!

P2 = 2 x 5.211^2 = 54.31 [W]

I give you the smurfs. All of them are yours, you *evil* you!
Muwahhaahahhah!!!!

Btw, the total power is the sum of the powers dissipated in each of the 3 resistors.
You mean
Pt = Power dissipated in resistor 1 +Power dissipated in resistor 2 + Power dissipated in resistor 3?

In which case, I was aware of that!

And I did get the correct result, yes?
Jul8-11, 10:36 AM   #38
 
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Easy peasy!

P2 = 2 x 5.211^2 = 54.31 [W]



Muwahhaahahhah!!!!



You mean
Pt = Power dissipated in resistor 1 +Power dissipated in resistor 2 + Power dissipated in resistor 3?

In which case, I was aware of that!

And I did get the correct result, yes?
Let me see...

We got a total power of 258.65 W.
Subtract 199.46 W from your previous result.
Subtract another 54.31 W that you just got.

That leaves.... 4.88 W for the 4 ohm resistor between A and B.
Yes! That's it! You got it!
Jul8-11, 10:48 AM   #39
 
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w00000000000000000t

You rock!


I'll probably do the other one tomorrow^^ You're incredible, ILS!!! This is pretty fun for me, I don't know about you You're a life saver. I'm pretty stressed about term B in electronics, it's my last chance at "redemption" for this course.
Jul8-11, 01:15 PM   #40
 
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Neh, this is no fun for me. ;)
Jul8-11, 03:44 PM   #41
 
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You did a nice job !! (!עבודה טובה)
There are typically several approaches to the same question.
Some take fewer steps than others.

Here is the method I was suggesting you try.
(It may help save you some time on an exam)

You found currents for the initial question to be I1=1.105, I2=5.211A and I3= I0 = 6.316A

Next was find VAB and PAB (with respect to R1).

V= IR ; VAB = I1R1 = (1.105)(4) = 4.42V
P = IV; PAB = I1VAB = (1.105)(4.42) = 4.88W
Jul8-11, 08:27 PM   #42
 
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Duly noted Quabache

Next time I will certainly be wiser

I will try me hands on another exercise this morning (it's 4:30 AM here. I'm an early riser!)
Jul9-11, 12:52 AM   #43
 
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And here's a second one.
Perhaps you can start a separate thread for this problem?


For the circuit shown below, determine the voltage for each of the
resistors and label the values on the diagram.
That was pretty easy. I didn't find P for each just for lack of patience. I know I know it!

Jul9-11, 01:17 AM   #44
 
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Hmm, it seems you've been progressing.....

But wait! You did not get all the smurfs!
Which smurf did you miss?
Jul9-11, 01:19 AM   #45
 
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Yea I know finding the P in each of them...but com'on you just apply a formula it's soooooooooooooo easy! Lemme skip that pretty please?
Jul9-11, 01:22 AM   #46
 
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How about this one?

First question--

How come they get to pick for me the direction of I? Shouldn't I be the one determining it?
Jul9-11, 01:24 AM   #47
 
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Not that. You made a mistake.
Perhaps I should have said that you dropped a smurf?
Jul9-11, 01:28 AM   #48
 
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First question--

How come they get to pick for me the direction of I? Shouldn't I be the one determining it?
Well....

Look at the drawing in your first post in this thread.
You did not mark the directions of the currents (and as a consequence you made a mistake with it).
So I thought I'd better mark them for you!

(Just kidding, I just picked the first exercise that fitted your description. )

The real reason would be that the people who made the exercise would want the same answer from all students, so it's easier for them to check the answers. This means naming the currents and preselecting the directions.
Jul9-11, 01:52 AM   #49
 
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Not that. You made a mistake.
Perhaps I should have said that you dropped a smurf?
More like a typo! I've accidentally linked the wrong file

Jul9-11, 01:55 AM   #50
 
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Well....

Look at the drawing in your first post in this thread.
You did not mark the directions of the currents (and as a consequence you made a mistake with it).
So I thought I'd better mark them for you!

(Just kidding, I just picked the first exercise that fitted your description. )

The real reason would be that the people who made the exercise would want the same answer from all students, so it's easier for them to check the answers. This means naming the currents and preselecting the directions.
Interesting. So you get different answers if you pick different direction for I? I didn't know that!
Jul9-11, 02:03 AM   #51
 
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More like a typo! I've accidentally linked the wrong file
Yep! You found the smurf! :)

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Interesting. So you get different answers if you pick different direction for I? I didn't know that!
If you pick the direction of a force in mechanics in the other direction, don't you get a different answer too?
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