Solving Double Integrals: √(1=y^2) & √(2x=x^2)

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The discussion revolves around understanding the limits of integration for a double integral involving polar coordinates. The original integral presented includes limits that are expressed in a potentially confusing notation, specifically involving equations that appear to relate to circular geometry.

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  • Participants explore how to visualize the region of integration in both rectangular and polar coordinates, questioning the meaning of the limits provided. There is a focus on interpreting the notation and understanding the geometric implications.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the notation used in the limits of integration, with some participants suggesting that the limits may relate to the equation of a circle. Clarifications about the correct interpretation of the limits are being sought, and some guidance has been offered regarding the connection between polar and rectangular coordinates.

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Participants express confusion over the notation used in the limits, particularly the presence of an equal sign, which has led to discussions about potential typos and the correct mathematical interpretation. The context suggests that the exercise is designed to facilitate conversion to polar coordinates.

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This might be somewhat of a mundane question but I can't seem to figure it out. It has to do with the limits of integration for a double integral. The initial integral is as follows...

1 √(1=y^2)
∫ ∫ 1/(1+x^2+y^2) dx dy
0 0

I hope the formatting on that doesn't get screwed up. Anyway, the point of the exercise is to convert this to polar and do the integral then. I can convert the equation easy enough, especially due to the x^2 and y^2 just turning into an r^2, however my question is what in the world is that one limit supposed to be? dx is first so it's like saying x = √(1=y^2)? I would imagine it is something that will convert to polar nicely since these are specially engineered excercises but I'm just not sure what to do with it with that = sign in there. There's also a second question with a similar limit y = √(2x=x^2). Sorry if this is a stupid question but I haven't encountered this notation before and it puzzles me.
 
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the best way is to draw that region to convert on the x-y plane...

then look at it and determine the limits for dr and dtheta
 
just think of how the polar coordinates are connected to the normal rectangular coordinates.

x=r*cos(theta)
y=etc
 
actually come to think if that's the equation of a circle r will remain constant and theta will vary by 2pi. ok I'm out of practise maybe i should be quiet.
 
It is the part of the circle in the first quadrant only :)
the region that is
 
Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear enough. I don't understand what the limits mean. On the y-axis it's going from 0 to 1, I can see that but what about the x axis? What is meant by integrating from 0 to √(1=y^2)? I can't even figure out how to visualize this in rectangular coordinates because that "=" sign in there is confusing mean. I just don't understand the notation.
 
=...I am sure that is supposed to be a - lol

EDIT: a minus, not a plus..
 
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i thought that was supposed to be a minus sign if so it comes from the equation of a circle:

x**2+y**2=1

can be rearranged into the upper limit of the x-axis quite easily
 
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-_-;; Sorry for posting such a stupid question, it's just that he made that same typo twice and I thought it was some kind of notation... Heheh... *quietly walks away
 
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oh, sorry about that...yea, I meant a minus sign :)
 

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