Two blocks on top of each other accelerating

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The problem involves two blocks stacked on top of each other, accelerating under the influence of a force. The original poster is attempting to determine the least amount of time required for the motion to complete without the top block sliding off the bottom block, given specific coefficients of friction and an initial distance.

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  • The original poster describes their attempts to calculate acceleration and time using equations of motion and forces acting on both blocks. Some participants question the assumptions made regarding the forces acting on the bottom block and suggest reevaluating the applied force in the context of static friction.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's approach. There is acknowledgment of a misunderstanding regarding the forces acting on the blocks, and a correction has been made to the equations used in the analysis.

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The problem involves specific coefficients of static and kinetic friction, and the original poster's calculations are based on these values. The scenario is constrained by the requirement that the top block must not slide off during the motion.

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I did this question several times and all I get for acceleration is negative 9.8...

static friction for the top block is .60 and kinetic friction for the bottom block is .20... The force is making both blocks move a distance of 5 meters starting from rest. They want to know What is the least amount of time in which this motion can be completed without the top block sliding on the lower block?

These are the equations I used...

acceleration is equal for both so [tex]a_t = a_b = a[/tex].

for the top block:

[tex]\sum F_x = F = m_t a + f_s[/tex]

[tex]F = m_t a + u_s m_1 g[/tex]

for the bottom block:

[tex]\sum F_x = F = m_b a + f_k[/tex]

[tex]F = m_b a + u_k g (m_t + m_b)[/tex]


I subtracted second equation from the first and get:

[tex]0 = a (m_t - m_b) + u_s m_1 g - u_k g (m_t + m_b)[/tex]

[tex]a = - 9.8[/tex]


then I used this equation:

[tex]x_f = x_i + v_i t + 1/2 a (t)^2)[/tex]

[tex]5 = 1/2 (-9.8) t^2[/tex]

[tex]t = 1.20408163[/tex]



That time is of course wrong...
 

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First of all:
You are using F as a force on the bottom block; but that is clearly false!
The driving force on the bottom block IS THE STATIC FRICTION FROM THE TOP BLOCK ON THE BOTTOM BLOCK!
 
Redo your equation for the bottom block. The applied force "F" acts only on the top block.


(arildno beat me again!)
 
Fixed it. :redface:

Thanks a lot. :)
 

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