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Aug7-11, 09:03 PM   #18
 

evolution of our socio-economic system - what should scientists do about it?


Quote by avtodorov View Post
i did not mean your literal interpretation of "outside" :)

i meant more along the lines of scientists thinking a behaving a certain way when they discuss science they do with their peers and the way they think and behave when they express opinions and act upon their "beliefs" on the topics and issues that are outside their narrow "scientific" focus

a good example would be a scientist that professes "belief in god" or feels compelled to fight on the side of "atheism": when he does his science he does not care about existance or non-existance of such concept as "god" but when he steps outside the lab he feels that he changes his ways and suddenly is compelled to seriously consider the issue of existence or non-existence of god

the "faith/atheism" debate is just an example; there are numerous others about a multitude of "beliefs" that strictly speaking are completely outside of science
I think it might be difficult to raise children in a "fact based" environment - kids need emotional connections.
 
Aug7-11, 09:12 PM   #19
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everybody always has a point of view

if you are interested in understanding my point of view and are willing to spend your time clarifying the definitions i am willing to spend my time engaging in the discussion

this is precisely what is going on now with me and WhoWee
Please clearly state what you are posting about. Give me a short, to the point, clear statement of what you wish to discuss.

Your thread title is "evolution of our socio-economic system - what should scientists do about it?" I have yet to see anything about this.
 
Aug7-11, 09:16 PM   #20
 
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I think it might be difficult to raise children in a "fact based" environment - kids need emotional connections.
"fact based" <> "lacking emotional connections"

"emotion" = "the response to _fact_ without employment of 'conscious mind of reflexion'"

emotion is the "older" in evolutionary terms than "deliberative capability"

it is not possible to be "emotionless" but disciplined thinking and adherence to scientific method builds connectivity in the brain that favours certain emotions over the others

in my experience people who never stop learning are "better" parents simply because they pay more attention to the trajectory of cognitive development of their children
 
Aug7-11, 09:17 PM   #21
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Quote by avtodorov View Post
"fact based" <> "lacking emotional connections"

"emotion" = "the response to _fact_ without employment of 'conscious mind of reflexion'"

emotion is the "older" in evolutionary terms than "deliberative capability"

it is not possible to be "emotionless" but disciplined thinking and adherence to scientific method builds connectivity in the brain that favours certain emotions over the others

in my experience people who never stop learning are "better" parents simply because they pay more attention to the trajectory of cognitive development of their children
What has this got to do with the thread topic?
 
Aug7-11, 09:19 PM   #22
 
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Please clearly state what you are posting about. Give me a short, to the point, clear statement of what you wish to discuss.

Your thread title is "evolution of our socio-economic system - what should scientists do about it?" I have yet to see anything about this.
see post # 10 for a short paragraph
 
Aug7-11, 09:21 PM   #23
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Quote by avtodorov View Post
see post # 10 for a short paragraph
Then you have failed at doing so.
 
Aug7-11, 09:21 PM   #24
 
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What has this got to do with the thread topic?
that was in reply to WhoWee because he is the only one who showed any interest in the topic by way of asking clarifying questions

i also agree that his comment was not directly related to the topic but i do not mind answering it in the hopes he/she would like to get back to the topic
 
Aug7-11, 09:22 PM   #25
 
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Then you have failed at doing so.
what is not clear in my paragraph?
 
Aug7-11, 09:23 PM   #26
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what is not clear in my paragraph?
What has it to do with the OP?

You have yet to make a comprehensible OP. If you just want to discuss anything, then please take it to your personal blog. That's what the blog is for.
 
Aug7-11, 09:27 PM   #27
 
Quote by avtodorov View Post
that was in reply to WhoWee because he is the only one who showed any interest in the topic by way of asking clarifying questions

i also agree that his comment was not directly related to the topic but i do not mind answering it in the hopes he/she would like to get back to the topic
My intent was to determine your meaning. Your answer indicates that you believe an emotional bond is important with children. It also clarifies your position relevant to developing thought patterns and (I'll assume) reasoning?

With this said - do you believe children of scientists would need to be kept separated from other children - or would they associate freely?
 
Aug7-11, 09:27 PM   #28
 
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What has it to do with the OP?

You have yet to make a comprehensible OP.
what is not comprehensible in points (1) -(4)?

any specific one?

all of them?

you do not see how (4) flows from (1)-(3)?

any specific word needs clarification?

could you ask specific question rather than saying that opening post is not comprehensible
 
Aug7-11, 09:31 PM   #29
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Start over with a topic that matches the thread title, or post in your blog please.
 
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