Drop in Pressure Over A Given Distance

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The discussion revolves around a fluid dynamics problem involving the calculation of pressure drop in a garden hose using Poiseuille's Law. The original poster is uncertain about how to approach the problem and is seeking guidance on the necessary parameters and formulas.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply Poiseuille's Law but expresses confusion about calculating the coefficient of viscosity and the initial and final pressures. Other participants clarify that the viscosity is a known property and emphasize that only the pressure difference is needed for the calculation.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing clarifications about the use of known properties and the requirements of Poiseuille's Law. There is an ongoing exploration of the necessary information and formulas, but no consensus has been reached on how to proceed with the calculations.

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The original poster notes a lack of specific information regarding the internal friction and initial/final pressures, which are not provided in the problem statement. This has led to questions about how to derive or estimate these values.

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Hey I've been working on this pressure problem, and I am really stumped. We just started fluids, and I'm not really sure where to start. If someone could help me or point me in the right direction, that'd be great. Thanks! Heres the problem:

A straight horizontal garden hose 43.0 m long with an interior diameter of 1.50 cm) is used to deliver 20C water at the rate of 0.510 liters/s. Assuming that Poiseuille's Law applies, estimate the pressure drop (in Pa) from one end of the hose to the other.

Like I said, I'm not even sure where to start. :confused:
 
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Ok, I've been working on this and I think I have some progress, and I'm so close but I just seem to be missing a key point or something. Using Poiseuille's Law:
P1-P2=(8QnL)/(pi*R^4).

Now to find n , the coefficient of viscoscity, i have to use the equation :

F(visc)=n *(Av)/D

where A is the cross-sectional are of the pipe, and v is the velocity of the fluid.

So first, how do I calculate n if I don't have the internal friction, which I labeled as F(visc)? Or do I have that number? I am so confused.

And also, in Poiseuille's law, where do I get my initial and final pressures? P1 and P2.

This is what I've gotten so far, and I think I'm really close, but I just need n , correct? Thanks.


Edit: And how do I use whatever it is people on this board use to make the actual symbols, etc? It would make it a lot easier to write out those equations. :biggrin:
 
The coefficient of viscosity [tex]\mu[/tex] is assumed to be known. It is a physical property. Moreover, you've got all the data necessary to solve the problem merely by substituting them into the Poiseuille formulae. You don't need the pressure itself, but the pressure difference is required and it's what you work out in the Poiseuille expression.
 
Yeah that's what I was assuming, however as you can see its not included with the problem. What formula can I use to calculate it using the information I'm given? :confused:
 
koomba said:
Yeah that's what I was assuming, however as you can see its not included with the problem. What formula can I use to calculate it using the information I'm given? :confused:

[tex]\mu_{water}=1.12\cdot 10^{-3} Ns/m^2[/tex]

I was referring to Poiseuille Law.
 

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