Genetics: Uncovering the Genotype of Black Mouse with Tan Parent

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The discussion revolves around determining the genotype of a black mouse when crossed with a tan mouse, focusing on the genetic mechanisms that lead to different coat colors in mice. It involves concepts of inheritance, specifically the roles of dominant and recessive alleles in producing phenotypes, and explores the implications of various potential genotypes on the offspring produced.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the black mouse's genotype could be CcB?, with uncertainty about the second allele for the B gene.
  • Others argue that the black mouse must be CcB- to allow for the production of albino offspring (cc--), based on the known genotype of the tan mouse (Ccbb).
  • A later reply questions whether the albino genotype could also be ccBb or ccBB, suggesting that the problem may not be fully resolved by the initial assumptions.
  • One participant deduces that the mystery allele must be "b" based on the observation of "many" different offspring, implying a need for a combination of alleles that produces multiple phenotypes.
  • Another participant notes that the interpretation of "many" offspring is crucial, as a black mouse with genotype CcBB would not produce albino offspring, indicating that the genotype for the black mouse could not be definitively determined without this context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the genotype of the black mouse, with no consensus reached. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of the black mouse's genotype and the implications for the offspring.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the genotypes, particularly concerning the interpretation of the term "many" in relation to the offspring produced. The discussion also highlights the dependence on definitions of alleles and the potential for multiple interpretations of the albino genotype.

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In mice, the gene C causes pigment to be produced, while the recessive gene c makes it impossible to produce pigment (albino). Another gene, B, on a different chromosome, causes a chemical reaction with the pigment and produces a black coat colour. The recessive gene, b, causes an incomplete breakdown of the pigment, and a tan colour results. The genes that produce black or tan coat colour rely on the gene C, which produces pigment, but are independent of it.

The mating of a tan mouse and a black mouse produces many different offspring. One of the offspring is albino.

The tan mouse is Ccbb
How do you know the genotype of the black mouse?

I know it's CcB? but I don't know how the ? allele is found.

CcBB will produce CB, CB, cB, CB gametes and and can cross to give albino offspring that are ccBc and albino.

CcBb can give offspring that are albino as ccbb.

My textbook says the black mouse is CcBb since an allele must be taken from both parents. That isn't any justification for why that's the answer is it?
 
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If the tan mouse is Ccbb, then the cross must be Ccbb x CcB-.
The genotype of the tan mouse is a given, and we know that the genotype of a black mouse must be C-B-. Since the tan mouse is Ccbb, the only possible genotype for the black mouse is CcB- in order to have albino (cc--) progeny. I don't know what the genotype for the albino mouse is supposed to be, but from the information you give it's cc--, so the problem really ends at Ccbb x CcB-. Assuming that the albino genotype is ccbb, then the cross must be Ccbb x CcBb.
 
That's what I thought, but the albino genotype can also be ccBb or ccBB. The answer might be to use a test cross but that isn't what the book is saying.
 
For those wondering: I discerned that the mystery allele must be "b" because it said many different offspring resulted. Since there are 3 possible offsprings and 2 isn't usually considered many, I assumed it wanted a genotype combination which would result in all 3 offspring being possible.
 
kalladin has properly deduced how you determine that the black mouse has the genotype Cc for the allele associated with albinism.

I think you're right that the answer depends on the word "many" since a black mouse with the genotype CcBB crossed with a tan mouse of genotype Ccbb would only produce black and albino offspring. Without the use of the word "many," you would have no way to determine the genotype of the Black mouse for the B gene, other than that one allele must be B and the other could be B or b.
 

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