Solving a Limit with Multiple Fractions

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of a series involving multiple fractions, specifically the limit as \( n \) approaches infinity of the series \( \frac{1}{2} + \frac{3}{2^2} + \frac{5}{2^3} + \ldots + \frac{2n - 1}{2^n} \). Participants explore various approaches to solve this limit, including algebraic manipulations and the use of derivatives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a limit expression and attempts to simplify it through recursive manipulation, but expresses uncertainty about the completion of the solution.
  • Another participant suggests rewriting the series into two separate sums, identifying one as a geometric series and proposing a method involving derivatives to find the limit.
  • A third participant questions the necessity of using derivatives, seeking alternative methods to solve the limit without them.
  • Further contributions suggest breaking the series into geometric components and using known formulas for geometric series to derive a solution.
  • Another participant introduces a sequence-based approach, providing specific values for the series and a recurrence relation, ultimately leading to a proposed closed form for the limit.

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Participants express differing opinions on the methods to solve the limit, with some favoring the use of derivatives and others preferring more traditional algebraic techniques. There is no consensus on a single approach or solution.

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Some participants note the complexity of the limit and the potential difficulty in solving it without certain mathematical tools, such as derivatives. The discussion includes various assumptions and manipulations that may not be universally accepted.

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Hi all, I've been fighting with this limit:

[tex] \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( \frac{1}{2} + \frac{3}{2^2} + \frac{5}{2^3} + \frac{7}{2^4} + ... + \frac{2n - 1}{2^n} \right)[/tex]

What I did so far:

[tex] <br /> \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( \frac{1}{2} + \frac{3}{2^2} + \frac{5}{2^3} + \frac{7}{2^4} + ... + \frac{2n - 1}{2^n} \right)<br /> = \\<br /> \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( \frac{1}{2} \left( 1 + \frac{3}{2} + \frac{5}{2^2} + \frac{7}{2^3} + ... + \frac{2n - 1}{2^{n-1}} \right) \right)<br /> = \\<br /> \frac{1}{2} \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( 1 + \frac{3}{2} + \frac{5}{2^2} + \frac{7}{2^3} + ... + \frac{2n - 1}{2^{n-1}} \right)[/tex]

[tex] \\<br /> = \frac{1}{2} \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( 1 + \frac{1}{2} \left( 3 + \frac{5}{2} + \frac{7}{2^2} + ... + \frac{2n - 1}{2^{n-2}} \right) \right)<br /> = \frac{1}{2} \left( \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} 1 + \frac{1}{2} \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( 3 + \frac{5}{2} + \frac{7}{2^2} + ... + \frac{2n - 1}{2^{n-2}} \right) \right)<br /> = [/tex]

[tex] = \frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{4} \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( 3 + \frac{5}{2} + \frac{7}{2^2} + ... + \frac{2n - 1}{2^{n-2}} \right) \right)<br /> =<br /> \frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{4} \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( 3 \left( 1 + \frac{5}{6} + \frac{7}{12} + \frac{9}{24} + ... + \frac{2n - 1}{3.2^{n-2}} \right) \right)[/tex]

And with similar adjustments I got this:

[tex] \frac{1}{2} + \frac{3}{4} + \frac{9}{8} \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( \frac{5}{9} + \frac{7}{18} + \frac{9}{36} + ... + \frac{4n-2}{9.2^{n-2}} \right) \right)[/tex]

But here I finished :confused: .

Do I have the right approach? And if yes, how to complete it? If not, why? :smile:

Thank you for your suggestions.
 
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Rewrite your initial series as follows:
[tex]\sum_{i=0}^{n-1}\frac{2i+1}{2^{i+1}}=\sum_{i=0}^{n-1}\frac{i}{2^{i}}+\sum_{i=0}^{n-1}\frac{1}{2^{i+1}}[/tex]
the last sum is a simple, geometric series, which shouldn't pose any problems.

As for the first, use the following trick:
Let:
[tex]F_{n}(x)=\sum_{i=0}^{n-1}x^{i}, F(x)=\lim_{n\to\infty}F_{n}(x)=\frac{1}{1-x},|x|<1[/tex]
Now, G(x)=xF'(x) equals:
[tex]G(x)=xF'(x)=x\sum_{i=0}^{\infty}{i}x^{i-1}=\sum_{i=0}^{\infty}ix^{i}[/tex]

Note that your limit is simply [tex]G(\frac{1}{2})[/tex]
Hence, your solution of the first sum is obtained from:
[tex]G(x)=x\frac{d}{dx}\frac{1}{1-x}=\frac{x}{(1-x)^{2}}[/tex]
 
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Thank you arildno, very interesting trick. However, this limit was certainly not supposed to be solved using derivatives, because we didn't have them so far. Do you think there is another way to find out this limit?
 
Not that I can think of right now, at least..
It seems rather difficult to do it without the trick mentioned
(I'd be interested if someone comes up with an alternative)
 
rewrite as:

[tex]\left( \frac{1}{2} + \frac{3}{2^2} + \frac{5}{2^3} + \frac{7}{2^4} + ... + \frac{2n - 1}{2^n} \right) = \left( \frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{2^2} + \frac{1}{2^3} + \frac{1}{2^4} + ... + \frac{1}{2^n} \right)+\left( \frac{1}{2} + \frac{2}{2^2} + \frac{3}{2^3} + ... + \frac{n-1}{2^{n-1}} \right)[/tex]

The left sum is just a geometric series, the right sum you can break up as:

[tex]\left( \frac{1}{2} + \frac{2}{2^2} + \frac{3}{2^3} + ... + \frac{n-1}{2^{n-1}} \right)=\left( \frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{2^2} + \frac{1}{2^3} + ... + \frac{1}{2^{n-1}} \right)+\left(\frac{1}{2^2} + \frac{1}{2^3} + ... + \frac{1}{2^{n-1}} \right)+ ... +\left(\frac{1}{2^{n-1}} \right)[/tex]

So it becomes a sum of geometric series. Use the usual formula for these and you can end up with a rather nice formula, part of it will be another geometric series and part will go to zero as n goes off to infinity.
 
There is another solution:

Let S[n]=∑ k=1 to n (2k-1)/2k

S1[n]=∑ k=1 to n k/2k-1

S2[n]=∑ k=1 to n 1/2k=1-(1/2)n

We have:

n=1 ---> S1[1]=1/(20)

n=2 ---> S1=4/(21)

n=3 ---> S1=11/(22)

n=4 ---> S1=26/(23)

n=5 ---> S1=57/(24)

In general S1[n]=a[n]/2n-1

where a[1]=1,a[2]=4,a[3]=11,a[ 4 ]=26,a[5]=57,a[6]=120 ...

Without entering in details (it's enough easy to show this) the recurrence equation of this sequence is:

a[n]-2a[n-1]+a[n-2]=2n-1

The general solution of this (the closed form in 'n' more exactly) has the form:

a[n]=C1+C2*n+C3*2n-1

Solving for n=1,n=2 and n=3 ---> C1=-2 C2=-1 C3=4

Thus a[n]=4*2n-1-(n+2)

Therefore S1[n]=a[n]/2n-1=4-{(n+2)/2n-1}

S2[n]=1-(1/2)n

But S[n]=S1[n]-S2[n] ---> limn-> ∞ S[n]=3
 
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