Optics problem: electromagnetic theory

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The discussion revolves around an optics problem related to electromagnetic waves, specifically examining the relationship between the electric field (E) and magnetic field (B) components of a harmonic wave. The original poster seeks to demonstrate the equation (dE/dx)=-(dB/dt) and its implications for the relationship between the amplitudes of the fields.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss differentiating the electric and magnetic field equations with respect to their respective variables and applying the given relationship between them. Questions arise regarding the implications of the derived relationships, particularly concerning the speed of the wave.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on differentiation and clarifying the relationships between the variables involved. There is an exploration of the implications of the derived equations, but no consensus has been reached on the final interpretation of the results.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the wave propagates in the +x-direction, and specific vector notations for the electric and magnetic fields are being utilized. The original poster expresses some uncertainty about the implications of their calculations.

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If anyone who's good at optics/physics can help me with this electromagnetic part of optics...it'll be great.

so here's the problem:

imagine an electromagnetic wave with it's E-field in the y-direction. Show that (dE/dx)=-(dB/dt) applied to the harmonic wave B

E=Eo cos(kx - wt) B=Bo cos(kx - wt)

yields to the fact that Eo=cBo
in agreement with Ey=cBz

thanx in advance :blushing:
 
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Hi cuti_pie75.

Just work out (dE/dx)=-(dB/dt) with what you're given.
I`ll do dE/dx:

[tex]\frac{dE}{dx}=\frac{d}{dx} E_0 \cos(kx-\omega t) = -kE_o\sin(kx-\omega t)[/tex]
Differentiate B with respect to t and use the equation (dE/dx)=-(dB/dt).

You also need that [itex]\vec E_0=E_y \hat y[/itex] (this was given).
And assuming the direction of the wave is in the +x-direction. [itex]\vec B_0= B_z \hat z[/itex].
 
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Thank you very much for your fast reply Galileo, everything's much more clearer to me now...but i just have one more question:

i did the derivative for B in respect to t and comes to: kEo = -wBo
so my question is -w/k = c?

anyway, sorry for the bother and thanks again!
 
Almost, remember the equation is (dE/dx)=-(dB/dt), so you have a minus sign. There is another minus sign coming from the derivative of the cosine and another one from the chain rule (derivative of (kx-wt) with respect to t is -w).
So you get kEo=wBo
w/k indeed equals the speed of the wave (c in this case).
the way I always remember it, is by knowing that a traveling wave always has the form f(x-vt) with v the speed of the wave. kx-wt=k(x-w/kt), so w/k is the speed,
 

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