What Methods Are Used to Create Therapeutic Drugs Like ASA?

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The discussion revolves around the methods used to create therapeutic drugs, specifically acetylsalicylic acid (ASA), and includes questions about synthesis, titration, and comparisons with other organic acids. The scope encompasses theoretical and practical aspects related to drug synthesis and analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the general methods involved in creating therapeutic drugs, acknowledging the broad nature of the question.
  • Another participant suggests that ASA can be synthesized using commercially available salicylic acid and acetyl chloride, mentioning the acetylation process.
  • There is a discussion about the state of ASA during titration, with one participant stating it is water-soluble and can be dissolved in hot water for titration.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about what makes ASA special compared to other organic acids, while another notes that ASA is deacetylated to salicylic acid in the body, which is the active component.
  • A follow-up question is raised regarding the best base for titrating ASA, with suggestions of sodium or potassium hydroxide as accessible options.
  • Another participant mentions tetrabutylammonium hydroxide (TBAH) as a strong base for non-aqueous titrations, prompting questions about its availability and properties.
  • Concerns are raised about the accessibility of TBAH for a high school student, with an explanation provided about its solubility in organic solvents due to its hydrophobic groups.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of knowledge and certainty regarding the synthesis of ASA and the properties of different bases for titration. There is no clear consensus on the best base or the accessibility of TBAH.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of drug synthesis and the varying availability of chemicals, which may influence the feasibility of proposed methods for a high school project.

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For a project (grade 12), i have to do some research on therapeutic drugs, namely ASA.
I do have some questions that i find difficult to search online for.

1. What types of methods are involved in creating different types of therapeutic drugs? (i know its broad, but can i please have at least some info?)

2. How can i synthesize ASA with chemicals that i can easliy access?

3. If i want to titrate ASA, does that mean it is a liquid? If its a solid, what would i dissolve it into if i DO want to titrate it?

4. What some other prominent organic acids, and what makes ASA so "special" compared to those other acids.

I know this is a long post, so if you can't really post it on this site, my email is jdecamillis87@yahoo.com. Please send me some info. I would GREATLY appreciate it.
 
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decamij said:
For a project (grade 12), i have to do some research on therapeutic drugs, namely ASA.
I do have some questions that i find difficult to search online for.

1. What types of methods are involved in creating different types of therapeutic drugs? (i know its broad, but can i please have at least some info?)
I will not answer this, since it is a huge concept and I don't know much about it. Sorry.
2. How can i synthesize ASA with chemicals that i can easliy access?
Well, this is kinda simple, salicylic acid is commercially available, and acetyl chloride, and pyridine (or triethylamine, etc.) are so. You'll just acetylate the hydroxide in salicylic acid. You can find a procedure if you google with this term, "aspirin synthesis".

3. If i want to titrate ASA, does that mean it is a liquid? If its a solid, what would i dissolve it into if i DO want to titrate it?
No, it is in solution. Acetylsalicylic acid is a water-soluble chemical; just dissolve it in hot water and do the titration after you cool it to ambient temperature. If crystals occur, add some more water and boil, and repeat this procedure.


4. What some other prominent organic acids, and what makes ASA so "special" compared to those other acids.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. ASA is a special one, since it is deacetylated to salicylic acid in bowels, which is the real effective chemical.
 
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Thanx a bunch!

But one more thing. What is the best base to use (that is accessible) if i want to titrate ASA and why? Thanx for the help!
 
Don't try to find the solution far away; sodium or potassium hydroxide seem okay to me. If you have to do the titration in a non-aqueous medium, then tetrabutylammonium hydroxide is a superb base.

The why part is simple, I will let you find this by yourself.
 
what makes tetrabutylammonium hydroxide such a good titrating base, and is this a readily available substance for a 12th grader?
 
well, TBAH is not a very available substance, especially such places you are mentioning. However, its strong nature is caused by its great solubility in organic solvents by means of attached four butyl groups (they are hydrophobic groups, so they help the substance be soluble in a bunch of organic solvents). And since it has a hydroxide group on it, it is a good base.
 

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