Complementary Associations Theory

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a new approach to defining a number based on the concept of complementary associations, as proposed by a participant named Doron. The scope includes theoretical exploration and mathematical reasoning related to set theory and the properties of real numbers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Doron introduces a new approach to defining numbers through complementary concepts and invites feedback.
  • Another participant, referred to as The One, expresses skepticism about the overall presentation, specifically criticizing the clarity and coherence of the ideas presented.
  • A third participant critiques Doron's assumptions regarding sets A and B, suggesting that the notation and logical structure need clarification, particularly around the equality of the numbers q and p.
  • This participant argues that the lack of explicit restrictions on q and p allows for the possibility that they can be equal, challenging Doron's conclusion that q is not equal to p.
  • The critique emphasizes the need for a more rigorous logical framework in presenting the proposed theory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus in the discussion. Participants express differing views on the clarity and validity of the proposed definitions and assumptions, with some raising concerns about logical consistency.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential issues with assumptions and definitions, particularly regarding the equality of real numbers and the implications for set membership. The discussion remains focused on refining these foundational aspects without reaching a resolution.

Doron Shadmi
Hello Dear people,


In the attached address you can find A new approach for the definition of a NUMBER, which is based on the complementary
concept: http://www.geocities.com/complementarytheory/CATpage.html

I'll appreciate your remarks and insights.

Thank you.


Yours,

Doron
 
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Nice pic

I'll appreciate your remarks and insights.
What do I think?
Nice pic, shame about the rest!

The One
 
Hi the one,
..., shame about the rest!
Please be more specific.

Yours,

Doron
 
Dear Doron,

Let me tell you that your abstract is even bound with problems... Let's dissect it, shall we?

A and B are sets.

q and p are numbers of R (the set of all real numbers).

No problem here. Maybe you should add "suppose" and change the second assumption so it becomes:

suppose A and B are sets.

suppose q and p are real numbers.

Now here lies the first problem:

Option 1: q and p are members of A , but then q is not equal to p .

By saying "option 1", do you mean "case 1"?

Btw let me tell you that you didn't mention anywhere that p is not equal q, so we cannot say "then q is not equal to p".

Let me give you an example.

suppose q and p are real numbers.[/color]

Now, q and p can both be 7, can't they (because there are no restrictions). Which means if a set A contains p, then A contains q. That means...

q and p are members of A[/color]

Which is case 1. But they are not different! So we CANNOT conclude that

but then q is not equal to p[/color]

You should address this problem before we continue the rest. You MAY have a great and revolutionary idea (which, I'm so sorry to say that I doubt), but you need to present it in a stepwise logical manner.

Did you mean:

suppose q and p are real numbers, with p not equal q.

Please reply

Thank you
 
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