Are men with cats odd?


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Quote Quote by Stephen Tashi View Post
The fact that a cat doesn't eat treats shouldn't worry you unless its a problem with teeth. With a ktten, it probably isn't. But, for the future, remember that it's hard to detect discomfort in cats. They can be in pain in not show it. They can have very bad dental problems and not show it. (Just as in humans, bad breath is a symptom.)

My current guest cat had to have all but 6 of her teeth removed because her gums got such deep pockets in them that the nerves were exposed. Until the vet discovered this, nobody who was around the cat noticed that she had any problems.
Excellent points. Cats are notoriously picky eaters. If a cat doesn't care for a particular treat, it just means that cat is being a cat.

Animals will not normally show that they are in pain. Until they were domesticated, showing pain was like telling whatever predator was nearby to "pick me, I'm weak!"

I hope your guest kitty is better now!
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Thin-sliced heart (beef or venison) sauteed in butter with a little onion is food for the gods!! If you have never had it properly prepared, you just don't know.

My neighbor likes shooting deer and he is REAL squeamish, so I have to go gut out his deer for him whenever he kills one. In return, I get to take home the heart and the liver, and he brings me some steaks after the meat-cutter packs them, and some ground venison from time to time.

When I bring home a heart and a liver like that, my wife and I plan our next few days' meals around those organ meats. One time, a couple of decades back, I dragged a deer home (about 1/2 mile uphill) and my wife asked "where is the liver?" I had to trudge all the way back down there and recover it to keep her happy.
quoted for truth.

i'm a steak man, myself, except for heart. i make some sauteed mushrooms to go with it, and have a special spice i use only for heart: sea salt, green peppercorns, garlic, and cardamom (the mix goes in a pepper grinder).
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I'm beginning to wonder if you ever ate anything that didn't come from a supermarket.
Sure. Wild blueberries. Caught fish. A Snickers bar I found on the ground (still wrapped).

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Warning: this is a VERY acquired taste - if you think using that much parsley and rosemary in a recipe is insane, then it's not for you!
Yeah, I'm 26, I don't think I have enough time left in my life to "acquire" that particular taste.

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OMG you got one! She is adorable!
I know, right?

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Actually, not quite true. Cats get grains and greens from the stomach contents of the rodents they eat, and generally do quite well with some vegetable and grain.
See that's what I had thought, but never saw it written anywhere. I figured that maybe the partially digested grains were better than raw gains.

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Also, someone suggested catnip. I don't know the *why* behind it, but I have always heard (even from the vet) that you should not give a cat under a year old catnip.
They gave it to her at the shelter in a toy, but it's all dried up. She doesn't need catnip to go nuts when she's in hunting-mode.

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And if you choose to go the natural food way, they don't need sugar and salt. People food has too much.
Don't make it sound like I'm going granola, here. All things being equal, I'd rather have her just eat a turkey rather than processed turkey by-products.

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One question - the video was dark, was she actually RETRIEVING?
It's a ball. It has a big tag on it and see carries it by the tag... like the tail of a mouse.

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She is an adorable cat[...]
I know, right?

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Call it an improvised sleeping perch, comfy as heck, on top of a knee wall shelf.
You should slip a pea under there and see if she can still sleep.

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I wasn't going to include the close up, but I took about six pictures and caught her eyes just right.
Yikes, keep her away from the tomcats.

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The fact that a cat doesn't eat treats shouldn't worry you unless its a problem with teeth. With a ktten, it probably isn't.
I took a video last night of her playing with a treat, pouncing it, gnawing it, sucking on it, spitting it out, playing with it again, launching a surprise attack, and chewing on it before finally spitting it out in one piece.

I'll upload it tonight. Can't do it at work.
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Nov15-11, 12:39 PM
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Flex,

I wandered into this, and thought it was worth sharing, you need 47 minutes to watch it:
It is one of the only animals to domesticate itself.

and

Turkey may be the place where cats were first domesticated.

National Geographic - Science of Cats (2008)




Rhody...
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I know, right?
You sound absolutely smitten!


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Don't make it sound like I'm going granola, here. All things being equal, I'd rather have her just eat a turkey rather than processed turkey by-products.
Nothing granola in turkey. It is great for her. Several of my friends feed their cats nothing but raw meat.

I think you are doing a purrfectly fantastic job with her. She picked the right human.

The reason I asked if she was retrieving, it is hard to tell if she is bringing the ball down stairs to play with and you are taking it, or if she is returning it for you to throw again. If she is bringing it to you to throw again, that is quite a unique cat!
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The reason I asked if she was retrieving, it is hard to tell if she is bringing the ball down stairs to play with and you are taking it, or if she is returning it for you to throw again. If she is bringing it to you to throw again, that is quite a unique cat!
She drops it and then runs back to the first "hidden" step. For the purpose of the video I tried to watch her which disrupted our normal play. Usually I'm hidden from view, and I toss the ball over the side of the steps towards the loft at the top. She wrestles it to the bottom and when she's done, she runs back to that step. I've been trying to reward her for bringing it closer to me, but it's hard because she wants to play again right away.

Now, if I just STAND in the spot in the living room (I don't have to look at her, say "ball" or "play", or even have a toy in my hand) she'll run to that step and look up the stairs waiting for a toy to fall from the heavens.
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The best cat toy is a bunch of tissue paper tied to the end of a string which is tied to a stick. You work it like a fishing pole, and I, therefore, call this activity "cat fishing". When you dangle the lure in front of them or drag it on the floor they go into bird or mouse catching mode.

Once they "catch" the lure they'll lose interest in it. You let the lure "play dead" for a bit then try to escape, like a real mouse or bird would.

Bird mode is the best. You make the lure fly around closer and closer to them, tantalizing them. When they jump at it you pull it away. Tease them like that for a while, and you can work them up to jumping higher and higher, trying to catch it. After you feel they've put enough effort into jumping for it, you let them catch it and tear into it.

The more they claw pieces off the lure the more strands of tissue hang off it. They seem to like it more this way. There is some clean-up involved afterward.

A 1/4 inch x 4 foot dowel has the right springiness for the stick. I think they cost 75 cents.
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Yes.
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Jimmy,

The advertising folks who produce the skittles commercials are ODD to say the least.

Rhody...
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Rhody, I liked the comment in the National Geographic about the cat being the only pet that domesticated itself.

True, unless you count bedbugs, lice, mites, and fleas as pets. Perhaps the cat is simply the most welcome and cuddly of the five?
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Nov22-11, 05:41 AM
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Flex,

So, Pixel update, and Pixel, Flex update please, (assuming she walks on the keyboard, hehe...) How is her personality, sleep cycles, eating, etc...

Rhody...
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Flex,

So, Pixel update, and Pixel, Flex update please, (assuming he walks on the keyboard, hehe...) How is his personality, sleep cycles, eating, etc...

Rhody...
HER personality is evolving nicely. She plays a little rough sometimes, but we have a clear understanding; when I say "hey, be nice" in a stern voice she calms down right away. She might still want to play, but the teeth and claws go away. When she gets worked up though, she'll play for a lot longer than I can. We play hide-and-seek, we play fetch, and we play... uh... spaz-o-kitty (that's when she runs around attacking random toys).

She's a wicked cuddler, too. When I go to bed, we have a routine: she jumps on the bed and attacks my feet for a while, patrols the room, then patrols the house, and about 30 minutes later she curls up at the edge of the bed. Sometime after I fall asleep she moves in and lays right next to me, sometimes under the blanket. Once 4AM rolls around, she lays on the pillow next to my head and grooms me for a while until she falls asleep again. When I wake up, she jumps down and patrols the house again before settling in for breakfast.

She also enjoys treats now. I had to cut them up into smaller pieces and now she enjoys them. Clicker training has started but is going slow.

I think she's teething. Is there anything I can do about that? I gave her a Bic pen (internals removed) and stuffed it with treats so she'd chew on it, but she doesn't really do anything other than carry it around. I tied a big piece of rope to her kitty palace and she'll gnaw on that for a while, but I feel like she wants something more.
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Flex, I didn't read the whole thread, so maybe you already know about life as a cat slave, but if this is your first cat, life as you know it just ended.

You might as well have gotten married and had a kid.

You sound like someone I would trust with my cats. [You can't get a higher compliment from me... just ask my cats!]
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Flex, I didn't read the whole thread, so maybe you already know about life as a cat slave, but if this is your first cat, life as you know it just ended.

You might as well have gotten married and had a kid.

You sound like someone I would trust with my cats. [You can't get a higher compliment from me... just ask my cats!]
I know, she won't let me play XBox much anymore.
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I think she's teething. Is there anything I can do about that? I gave her a Bic pen (internals removed) and stuffed it with treats so she'd chew on it, but she doesn't really do anything other than carry it around. I tied a big piece of rope to her kitty palace and she'll gnaw on that for a while, but I feel like she wants something more.
Glad to hear SHE is settling in nicely, I changed my post above, and you may want to do the same, I had it right the first time and then changed it to a "he". Oh, well, it is fixed now...

I did a little research on teething issues here.
A kittens begins teething at between the ages of 15-17 weeks old so your cat is now around that age,and all the permanent teeth are through by 6 months and fully developed at about 7 months old,first teeth to be changed are the central incisors so yes its normal its happening as it should for him, then the next teeth to come through are followed a week later by the laterals and then the fangs change at 4 and a half months, the tip of the permanent canine appearing at this time; these fangs, the largest teeth, are fully erupted at 7 months of age, so it sounds like its all going as it should for your cat, but don't give him any bones to chew on though as its dangerous as for cold rags no need kittens cope well and many owners don't notice until some new teeth are through,they don't make a fuss, and once teething is over and he has all his new teeth he will have as follows, (adult cats have 30 teeth altogether), 12 incisors, 4 canines, 10 premolars and 4 molars.
Rhody...

P.S. When you say, we play "fetch" what exactly do you mean ? I have never seen that except for stage trained cat entertainment acts ?
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Hi as a cat slave i feel for you cause these furies to demand a lot but are worth it. Teething wise if you have any questions let me know i have many cats and foster them have been through teething many times lol
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Glad to hear SHE is settling in nicely, I changed my post above, and you may want to do the same, I had it right the first time and then changed it to a "he". Oh, well, it is fixed now...
Too late to edit. Sorry Rhody.

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I did a little research on teething issues here.


Rhody...

P.S. When you say, we play "fetch" what exactly do you mean ? I have never seen that except for stage trained cat entertainment acts ?
She still likes to gnaw on my finger, so I let her until she gets rough and then say in an unfriendly voice "hey, be nice." It's always worked, so I'll stick with it.

Fetch is when I throw her ball, she goes to get it (usually doesn't play with it much), picks it up by the giant tag on it in her teeth, and carries it back. She will either drop it and get back in position for me to throw it, or she'll lay on the ground in front of me and look at me until I take the ball... then she'll run and get in position.
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Too late to edit. Sorry Rhody.



She still liked to gnaw on my finger, so I let her until she gets rough and then say in an unfriendly voice "hey, be nice." It's always worked, so I'll stick with it.

Fetch is when I throw her ball, she goes to get it (usually doesn't play with it much), picks it up by the giant tag on it in her teeth, and carries it back. She will either drop it and get back in position for me to throw it, or she'll lay on the ground in front of me and look at me until I take the ball... then she'll run and get in position.
bless she sounds like what we call cat-dogs there are a few breeds which act like dogs, mine too play fetch its very cute and quite an achievement with cats as they are not ones to be obedient. Teething wise there is nothing to be done with cats really they have to get through it, they don't lose the canines until around 5-6 months and then they normally end up swallowing them or you'll find them around the house. Would love to see a pic


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