Net ionic equations with no ions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the formulation of net ionic equations, specifically in the context of the reaction between lithium hydroxide (LiOH) and hydrobromic acid (HBr). Participants explore the nature of the reactants and products, questioning the presence of ions in the net ionic equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes the molecular equation for the reaction between LiOH and HBr and suggests a possible net ionic equation as OH(-) + H(+) ---> H(2)O.
  • Another participant questions the solubility of LiBr and prompts consideration of the ions present in a solution of NaCl.
  • A third participant recommends consulting a physical chemistry text for guidance on ionic equations, specifically mentioning Atkins as a resource.
  • A later reply suggests that the presence of LiBr in aqueous solutions may not be straightforward and hints at the importance of considering cross-ionic reactions.
  • There is a note about the notation used for the states of matter in the equation, particularly the omission of (aq) for H2O, which may be relevant to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the formulation of the net ionic equation and the role of ions in the reaction, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the states of the compounds involved and the implications of solubility on the presence of ions in the reaction.

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Just a short question:
Now the molecular equation between LiOH (aq) with HBr (aq) is (I presume):
LiOH (aq) + HBr (aq) ----> LiBr (aq) + H(2)O (l)
Now I'm confused about the net ionic, since there are no ions.
Would it just be:
OH(-) + H(+) ---> H(2)O?
 
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What is the solubility of LiBr?

Think of a solution of NaCl. What are the ions?
 
Additionally, I recommend you look up the chapter on Ionic Equations in your favorite physical chemistry text. I like Atkins, but any decent text will show you how to go about this.
 
Astronuc has shown a good way, in aqueous solutions we don't have LiBr on hand, this is in another form. And look for cross-ionic reactions to give the final product. You wrote (aq) for three compounds, but not for H2O, this may give you a cue.
 

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