Finding x: Block Sliding on Spring SHM

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The problem involves a block of mass m resting on another block of mass m, both attached to a horizontal spring with spring constant k. The scenario describes the conditions under which the top block begins to slide off the bottom block during simple harmonic motion (SHM) after the spring is disturbed from its equilibrium position.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the forces acting on the blocks, particularly the static friction and spring force. Questions arise about the conditions for sliding, with some attempting to equate forces to derive expressions for acceleration and displacement.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the forces involved and the conditions for sliding. Some guidance has been offered regarding the maximum acceleration the top block can withstand, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or final expression for x.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the inequalities related to the forces acting on the blocks, as well as the correct application of the spring force and frictional force in the context of SHM.

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A block of mass m is attached to a horizontal spring with constant k. resting on top of this block is another block of mass m. a coefficient of static friction mu exists between the two blocks. now suppose the spring is initially at equilibrium length, and someone gives it a push. the block moves in SHM in response. At a certain distance from equilibrium, the top block starts wo slide off the bottom one, find the x in terms of the given quantities and g.

So with the the moment when the top block slides off the block is when umg=ma? and where do I go from here?
 
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[tex] \mu mg = kx[/tex]

The spring force = the frictional force.
 
physicsss said:
So with the the moment when the top block slides off the block is when umg=ma?
Right. So this tells you the maximum acceleration that the top block can withstand before it starts sliding. So find the acceleration of the system as a function of distance from the equilibrium postion. (You know the force on the system from the spring, and you know the mass of the system.)
 
Hey futb0l,

Are you sure about that? I could be wrong but for the top block [tex]ma <_= \mu m g[/tex] (couldn't figure out less than or equal sign) . So when it isn't slipping [tex]kx = 2ma[/tex]
 

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