Calculating Water Speed & Flow from a Hose

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of water exiting a hose and the volume of water discharged over a minute. The problem involves concepts from kinematics and fluid dynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between projectile motion and the speed of water, questioning which equations are appropriate for the scenario. There is discussion about using kinematic equations and energy conservation principles.

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Participants have made progress in identifying relevant equations and have shared various approaches to find the initial speed of the water. Some have suggested using energy conservation concepts, while others focus on kinematic relationships. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but multiple viable approaches are being discussed.

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Participants note the challenge of missing information, such as time, and the need to clarify the setup of the problem. There is also mention of the difficulty in using symbols and equations effectively.

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A Hose shoots water straight up for a distance of 2.5m. The end opening on the hose has an area of .75cm^2. (A) What is the speed of the water as it leaves the hose? (B) How much water comes out in 1 minute.

If I have A i can find B, I just can't figure out how to find A. I know gravity is going to be what is pulling it down, I just am unsure of what equation to use. I was thinking maybe Bernouli's Equation but not positive, any help is appreciated
 
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Treat the water as any other "projectile". What speed does a projectile need to rise up that distance?
 
Sorry for lack of symbols, still figuring it out how to work them all but..

Y = Y0 + V0T + -1/2GT^2

Y0 = Original Height
V0 = Original Velocity

So..

2.5 = V0 - .5(9.8)

So 2.5 + 4.9 which is 7.4?

I may of mixed up the equation, forgot book in my locker which is part of the problem
 
Jacob87411 said:
Y = Y0 + V0T + -1/2GT^2

Y0 = Original Height
V0 = Original Velocity
That equation relates distance and time. But you aren't given the time.

You need a kinematic equation that relates distance and speed.
 
V^2 = V0^2 - 2aY or
V^2 = V0^2 + 2a(Y1 - Y0)

The water at its very peak V will equal 0 won't it? So..

0 = V0^2 - 2(9.8)(2.5 - 0)
0 = V0^2 - 49
V0^2 = 49
V0 = 7
 
Right! But don't forget units: 7 m/s.
 
Thanks a lot, i really appreciate it
 
A comment...I'd do that problem by considering a small "piece" of the fluid, finding its potential energy at its maximum height (m*g*h), and equating that to its initial kinetic energy.
 
An excellent approach which leads to the exact same equation:
[itex]mgh = 1/2mv^2[/itex] => [itex]v^2 = 2gh[/itex]
 

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