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| Jan5-12, 02:53 AM | #1 |
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Arthur Conan Doyle and Spiritualism
It came out on an episode of Decoded that aired tonight that Arthur Conan Doyle was a staunch believer in spiritualism. Apparently he was astonishingly gullible about it, which is very surprising for the man who created Sherlock Holmes.
The Fox sisters, who started the whole spiritualism movement by hoaxing noises from spirits, later confessed to the hoax and demonstrated how they accomplished it. The movement had gained such momentum that some of their followers refused to believe the confession: |
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| Jan5-12, 04:15 AM | #2 |
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| Jan5-12, 03:02 PM | #3 |
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Holmes was largely based on Doyle's teacher, Bell: http://www.sherlockandwatson.com/the...%20holmes.html and Bell said of Doyle: It causes me to speculate on the possibility of a "personality type" (unnofficially speaking) that could be characterized as 'spongey'. This was the premise of the obscure Woody Allen movie Zelig. The main character, Zelig, was an involuntary human sponge, or perhaps, chameleon: without particularly intending to, he soaked up all the attitudes and trappings of whatever crowd he happened to become entangled with; thrown in with jazz musicians, he absorbed their jargon, learned the clarinet, and was soon a member of the band. The same for each new crowd he enters, even becoming a member of the Nazi party just by accidental exposure to them for a time. I have to wonder if Doyle, Zelig-like, merely 'absorbed' the rational/scientific attitude Bell projected, 'absorbed' the trappings and abilities of an author, and finally 'absorbed' the beliefs of a spiritualist from heavy exposure to his spiritualist wife. Diagnostic skills are essentially scientific. How could they run only skin deep in a person who was apparently very good at it? However, I'm sure there are alternate possible explanations. |
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Hmm cognitive dissonance is an absolutely bizarre phenomenon. I have met many people who hold two entirely different (i.e. mutually exclusive) ways of thinking/acting and it boggles my mind.
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| Jan5-12, 03:11 PM | #5 |
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There's usually some comprehensible train of thinking behind it, and basically I'm wondering what it would be in this case.
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| Jan5-12, 06:20 PM | #6 |
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From wiki (YMMV) :
"... Following the death of his wife Louisa in 1906, the death of his son Kingsley just before the end of World War I, and the deaths of his brother Innes, his two brothers-in-law (one of whom was E. W. Hornung, creator of the literary character Raffles) and his two nephews shortly after the war, Conan Doyle sank into depression. He found solace supporting spiritualism and its attempts to find proof of existence beyond the grave..." Put politely, the poor sod lost it... |
| Jan5-12, 07:58 PM | #7 |
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Thing is, though, his interest preceded all that: I can see how all the personal loss would have made it worse, but it doesn't seem to be what precipitated it. It does help explain his acceptance of the fairy photographs, which appeared circa 1917. Before all the deaths and depression, we can suppose he might have been more skeptical of those. |
| Feb17-12, 02:29 PM | #8 |
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my own view of Conan Doyle is that he is very much like the television character House, who is (by the producers' own admission) based on Doyle's creation, Holmes.
House is profoundly rational, perhaps even obsessively so, and yet often displays a profound understanding of religion in particular, moreso than the patently (and thus superficially) religious Dr. Chase, that could only be borne of spiritual understanding. also, he's bat-**** insane. (perhaps a more reasonable explanation is that it was quite common in the Victorian era for people to behave quite differently depending on their surroundings...no doubt this led to a high degree of "compartmentalization" for many people). |
| Feb18-12, 04:52 AM | #9 |
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| Feb18-12, 08:09 PM | #10 |
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It could be that the belief in spirits or telepathy were encouraged by scientific advance in fact - once you start seeing a material/mechanical base to everything, then this makes ideas about ectoplasm, a spirtual plane or whatever, a "more rational" belief than some immaterial idea of soul. If you want to believe in religious teachings, then a rationalist would want to find a substantial explanation. It may seem kooky from our modern standpoint, but it would have been the more scientific view in Victorian times - if you were taking the arch-materialist position of the reductionist thinker. Exactly the same dynamic still operates today when it comes to things like quantum approaches to consciousness. People are looking for a substantial explanation of something they feel needs a properly material answer. |
| Feb18-12, 08:35 PM | #11 |
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| Feb18-12, 10:10 PM | #12 |
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| Feb18-12, 10:33 PM | #13 |
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I suppose a similar book could be written about Doyle's times. (He looks pretty silly from here, but surely couldn't have been as bad back then.) |
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