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Feb22-12, 05:00 PM   #205
 

Rick Santorum's candidacy ...


It seams as thought Santorum is saying that the entire world except the US, has completely fallen to Satan. And, that all US institutions have also fallen, except US politics, of which there is now a spiritual war fighting over.
Feb22-12, 05:04 PM   #206
 
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Obama may or may not have been there when Wright said the controversial things he did. The clips of Wright though, represent a few moments, out of the 20 years Obama had attended. If Wright condemned America for the KKK every sermon, then there would be a whole lot more than the few clips your talking about.

I wonder what Santorum's position is on the US history of slavory? According to him, those times were part of the period prior to the almost 200 years Satan had his sights only on America, and before Satan was successful at corroding the christian foundations of America.
Unless Wright was televised weekly, it might be hard to find evidence either way.
Feb22-12, 05:06 PM   #207
 
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I'm not sure what you mean by that.
It was a joke. I've been attending some very boring lectures lately - having to do with HIPPA/MIPPA compliance.
Feb22-12, 05:09 PM   #208
 
Quote by jreelawg View Post
Obama may or may not have been there when Wright said the controversial things he did. The clips of Wright though, represent a few moments, out of the 20 years Obama had attended. If Wright condemned America for the KKK every sermon, then there would be a whole lot more than the few clips your talking about.

I wonder what Santorum's position is on the US history of slavory? According to him, those times were part of the period prior to the almost 200 years Satan had his sights only on America, and before Satan was successful at corroding the christian foundations of America.
The slavery thing sounds like a strawman emerging - but as you pointed out about Wright - if there's more than one comment it should be easy to source (on Santorum) - no reason to speculate.
Feb22-12, 05:16 PM   #209
 
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Sure, but this is Santorum himself speaking. This is what he believes.
A very important distinction...critical, in fact.
Feb22-12, 05:22 PM   #210
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Unless Wright was televised weekly, it might be hard to find evidence either way.
Last I looked, Wright wasn't running for President, so I suggest you stop the red herring tactic.
Feb22-12, 05:26 PM   #211
 
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So women should be disallowed from serving in the front lines because men lack the discipline to stick to the mission?
This is a pattern I notice quite often, not just with respect to women in the military, but many other excuses for denying women equal rights. It leaves me wondering whether those coming up with these excuses are really misogynistic, or actually misandristic? (However that ought to be spelled.) It seems the issue they worry about isn't that women aren't strong enough to serve in the roles, but that men are too weak and easily distracted to serve with them.
Feb22-12, 06:18 PM   #212
 
The way I see it, Santorum thinks that America was almost perfect, and now in modern times is being taken over by Satan.

Where as Obama, in my opinion thinks that those times in the past, when black people and women were suppressed etc, were actually bad, and that modern times, when people are free, can get an education and be hopeful to the future etc, is good.

They are practically opposite views. Also, the way that they each conduct themselves in regards to their religion is very different. Obama, has focused on helping his community, he is concerned with the plight of the poor, and middle class, and seams to be a charitable guy by nature. These values make sense if he is a christian, as they are the type of values that Jesus supposedly held.

In contrast, Santorum, a wealthy man, has pretty much no history of charity, and in fact rants against it. He has stated he is not concerned with the poor. These are values which seam to go against his own religion.

Personally, I think that people can for the most part make whatever they will out of their faith. There is so much fighting over who is and who isn't an authentic christian.

To me, the type of Christian who seams to focus on good will towards others, and hope and all that stuff, don't scare me.

It's the ones who try to rally angry mobs with angry speeches about apocalyptic spiritual battles who scare me.
Feb22-12, 06:46 PM   #213
 
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We have scare-mongers on the right warning against the establishment of "Sharia Law" in the US, but some of them appear to want to establish fundamentalist theology as a foundation of our government. I have problems with that.
I agree with the threat regarding Sharia law. There are some very radicalized Muslims in the European nations trying to do this right now. I partially agree regarding the fundamentalist theology. While you do have some people who want to force their theology onto people's lives, you don't have the threat of radical Christians forming areas of the country where the police won't even go into because they're so radicalized (as there are in Germany and France for example wrt radical Muslims), of such Christian radicals saying that they want to create "Christian law" zones of major cities, where their "Christian law" will dominate (in London for example, some radical Muslims want to create Sharia law-controlled areas). And some could say such acts are just of some radicals who shouldn't be taken seriously, but if a group of radical Christians decided to put up posters in neighborhoods of major American cities declaring them "(insert radical Christian theology) zones" it would probably be all over the news.
Feb22-12, 06:52 PM   #214
 
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We have scare-mongers on the right warning against the establishment of "Sharia Law" in the US, but some of them appear to want to establish fundamentalist theology as a foundation of our government. I have problems with that.
Has Santorum (topic of thread) indicated that he wants "to establish fundamentalist theology as a foundation of our government" - or are you referring to comments made by someone else?
Feb22-12, 08:40 PM   #215
 
Santorum- "I didn't say black people".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnjEY...eature=related

Santorum - Black people comment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dUqY...eature=related
Feb22-12, 08:58 PM   #216
 
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Santorum- "I didn't say black people".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnjEY...eature=related

Santorum - Black people comment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dUqY...eature=related
It sounded like he said "blind people" - either way - what is the problem his policy?
Feb22-12, 09:11 PM   #217
 
It's just funny watching him try to lie about it.
Feb23-12, 07:58 AM   #218
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=F0XkXRoT558
Re: a date night with Obama.


I wondered if Santorum knew how much praise he was heaping on Obama ... then

oh ya oh ya ... but this is a waste of money ... use yer local bar eh pres.
Impress the country or impress your date ... ? hehehe

when the Prez does a date ... why hold back.

( personaly ... I hope the prez is a 'mile high' club member on AirForce1 ... I would be. :) )
Feb24-12, 08:24 AM   #219
 
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On the president's efforts to boost college attendance, Santorum said, "I understand why Barack Obama wants to send every kid to college, because of their indoctrination mills, absolutely ... The indoctrination that is going on at the university level is a harm to our country."
The man's a loon.
Feb24-12, 08:56 AM   #220
 
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I'm not an American, but for the sake of that (and my own) country, I sincerely hope this guy doesn't get elected.
Feb24-12, 08:56 PM   #221
 
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I'm not an American, but for the sake of that (and my own) country, I sincerely hope this guy doesn't get elected.
I don't think he will, but then I didn't think that G.W. Bush would get elected either. Of course in the first election he didn't actually get elected. Maybe the same sort of thing could happen with Santorum or ... Romney. Considering this, maybe I will vote for Obama.
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