Rick Santorum's candidacy ...

mheslep

Graphic depiction of sex. There are, BTW, obscenity guidelines on PF. Do you have any problem with understanding those: "depicting obscene, indecent, lewd, pornographic..."?

Why? Did you read my prior post?

lisab

But just think how many jobs will be created by trying to enforce a law against hardcore porn! We'd create a Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vices*, which would soon be bigger than the TSA, commensurate with the "problem" it's trying to solve.

* if "Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vices" doesn't ring a bell - google it.

lisab

That's in most R rated movies -- I don't think it's hardcore.

mheslep

Eh, not graphic. R doesn't show genitals doing their thing.

Evo

Santorum is talking about at the federal level. Where you not referring to a federal definition? If not, I don't see the point of your post. Forum rules are a far cry from what Santorum is claiming, no?

You still haven't answered Char's request.

mheslep

The reference to the PF case was to make the point that decency rules have been set down here without a great deal of confusion about what those terms mean, and PF rules are clearly far more restrictive than banning hardcore porn.

Char. Limit

There's a nice difference between forum rules and federal law - namely, that good federal law HAS to be exact. Vague federal laws aren't good federal laws. You can't say the same about forum rules.

mheslep

From before...

micromass

As much as I value the PF rules, they do not make a legal document. Hence, they don't really need exact definitions.

Since you are talking about an actual law, then you DO need an exact definition. Can you give us the exact definition??

Evo

Still waiting for the federal law Santorum is refering to that makes "hardcore porn" illegal.

From the links I posted, apparently it is not true. There are vague guidelines for obscenity that is determined at the local/state level. I can't find anything more specific. Maybe Santorum doesn't know the law? You'd think he might have wanted to check that before he made claims.

Seems like he's handed the nomination over to Romney, IMO. Unless more of Santorum's followers would back Newt, I guess that's possible. What a mess if it comes to that, IMO.

mheslep

Agreed, if you substitute 'clear', or widely and easily understood, instead of exact. I don't think the laws should be on the books, especially these laws, if they are not.

I'd say that about any set of rules.

micromass

No. Laws absolutely need to be exact. Since if they're not exact, then they're vague and up to interpretation. We don't want this.

SixNein

Hardcore porn would be covered under obscenity laws. And obscenity laws depend on the local community. For internet web sites, it would be a disaster.

micromass

Please state the specific law.

SixNein

That is what he is referring to....

micromass

So you mean that federal government can't do anything about it. So Santorum can't do anything about porn when he gets elected?
So Santorum is lying?? Is that what you say?

SixNein

I did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsceni..._obscenity_law