How do I show that A is not diagonalizable?

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The discussion revolves around the problem of demonstrating that a matrix A is not diagonalizable. Participants are engaged in exploring the calculation of the characteristic polynomial and the implications of eigenvalues and eigenvectors in this context.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about showing that matrix A is not diagonalizable and attempts to find eigenvalues and eigenvectors, noting that -1 is suggested as an eigenvalue.
  • The participant calculates the characteristic polynomial but believes -1 is not a root, which raises questions about their calculations.
  • Another participant points out a potential error in the calculation of the characteristic polynomial, suggesting a possible typo in the original problem statement.
  • A third participant mentions that a computational tool indicates that A does not have -1 as an eigenvalue.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the calculations or the existence of -1 as an eigenvalue. There are competing views regarding the correctness of the characteristic polynomial and the implications for diagonalizability.

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There are unresolved issues regarding the accuracy of the characteristic polynomial and the assumptions about the eigenvalues. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the calculations and the original problem statement.

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Students or individuals studying linear algebra, particularly those interested in eigenvalues, eigenvectors, and matrix diagonalization.

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?!? (need help as soon as possible, thx)

Ok, what am I doing wrong with that? It's the second problem like this with which I arrive at an absurdity.. Essentially I must show that A is not diagonalizable. So I want to find the eigenvalues and eigenvectors and show that there are not enough eigenvectors to diagonalize A. To ease the calculations, I am told that -1 is an eigenvalue.

[tex]A=\left( \begin{array}{ccc} 2 & 1 & 0 \\<br /> 2 & 1 & -2 \\ -1 & 0 & -2 \end{array} \right)[/tex]

I must find the roots of the 3rd degree polynomial equation expressed by [itex]det(A-\lambda I)=0[/itex]. Let us develop that determinant according the 2nd column. We have

[tex]det(A-\lambda I) = \sum_{i=1}^3 (-1)^{i+2}a'_{i2}det((A-\lambda I)_{i2}) = - \left| \begin{array}{cc} 2 & -2 \\ -1 & -2-\lambda \end{array} \right| + (1-\lambda)\left| \begin{array}{cc} 2-\lambda & 0 \\ -1 & -2-\lambda \end{array} \right|[/tex]
[tex]= -[(2)(-2-\lambda)-(-2)(-1)]+(1-\lambda)[(2-\lambda)(-2-\lambda)] = (2\lambda + 6) + (1-\lambda)(\lambda^2 -4)[/tex]
[tex]= -\lambda^3 + \lambda^2 -2\lambda + 2[/tex]

For which of course -1 is not a root!


The final exam is tomorrow, so thanks for your quick replies! :smile:
 
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Hi, it looks like you've made an error in finding the characteristic polynomial. In your second to last equality, you replaced [tex](2-\lambda)(-2-\lambda)[/tex] with [tex](-2\lambda -4)[/tex]. This still won't make -1 a root though.

Is it possible there's a typo in the question?
 
According to Derive, A doesn't have an eigenvalue of -1...
 
grr.. well alright, thanks guys.
 

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