How Do You Calculate the Maximum Vertical Height on an Inclined Plane?

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The problem involves a block sliding down a frictionless track and then ascending an inclined plane. The goal is to calculate the maximum vertical height the block reaches on the incline, given specific parameters such as the coefficient of friction and the angle of the incline.

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  • Participants discuss energy conservation principles and the relationship between the block's initial height and its maximum height on the incline. There are questions regarding the definitions of variables, such as the angle of the incline and the meaning of height in the context of the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and clarifying assumptions. Some guidance on using energy conservation has been provided, but no consensus has been reached regarding the parameters involved.

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There are uncertainties about the definitions of the angle θ and height h, as well as the role of friction in the calculations. Participants are questioning whether certain variables should be represented differently in the equations.

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Determining maximum vertical height

A block slides down a curved frictionless track and then up an inclined plane. The mass of the block is the point mass m. The coefficient of friction between the block and the incline is μk = 0.30 Use energy methods to find the maximum vertical height up the plane that the block reaches for θ = 45°, and h = 0.65 m.

Mgymax = mgh-Wfk
Mgymax = mgh- μkCos θ ∆x
ymax = h- μkCos θ ∆x

This is about how far I have come. Not sure if it is right though.

I am not sure if ∆x should actually be ∆y or if either should be in the problem.

I am seeking a direction on what to do next to complete this problem. I appreciate any help.
 
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It seems that something is missing from your description of the problem ... presumably [tex]\theta[/tex] is the angle of the inclined plane to the vertical (or is it horizontal?); but what's h?
 
Well i suppose that theta is the angle of the incline with the horizontal. Let's suppose that h is the vertical height from which we start on the curved trajectory...

At the point where the incline starts we have from energy-conservation :

[tex]mgh = \frac{mv^2}{2}[/tex]

Then we move up the plane until vertical distance [tex]h_{max}[/tex]

energyconservation yields :
[tex]\frac{mv^2}{2} = mgh_{max} - {\mu}N{\Delta p}[/tex] Where the delta p denotes the traveled distance of the object ON the inclined plane. ofcourse, using trigon. we know that [tex]h_{max} = \Delta p * sin(45)[/tex] so we can eliminate delta p and write all as a function of h_max...

But personally i think that there should be a least one parameter that you can vary in order to solve the extremum-problem...you sure about this question...


regards
marlon
 
Not to pick nits, but ...

Is that vertical height as opposed to horizontal height? :wink:
 

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