Polar-parametric transformation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility and methods of transforming parametric equations into polar equations, specifically focusing on the case of a hypocycloid. Participants explore the mathematical relationships between different coordinate systems and the challenges involved in such transformations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the general feasibility of transforming parametric equations into polar equations and seek methods to achieve this.
  • Specific parametric equations for a hypocycloid are presented, with requests for guidance on expressing them in polar form.
  • One participant suggests using the relationships between the coordinates, indicating that if the formulas are diffeomorphisms, transformation should be possible.
  • Another participant provides a method involving the calculation of \(\rho(t)\) and \(\theta(t)\) from the parametric equations, although they express skepticism about the complexity of inverting these relationships.
  • There is a light-hearted exchange regarding the difficulty of the curve and the suggestion to abandon the effort, which is met with resistance from another participant who is determined to continue.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and complexity of the transformation process. While some acknowledge the possibility of transformation, others highlight the challenges and potential impracticalities involved, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to the transformation, and there are indications of varying levels of confidence in the methods discussed. The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of the relationships between coordinate systems that are not fully explored.

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Is it possible to transform a parametric "equation" into a polar equation? If so how would I go about it?

Thanks for reading.
 
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Moore1879 said:
Is it possible to transform a parametric "equation" into a polar equation? If so how would I go about it?
Thanks for reading.

If the fomulae relating various coordinate systems are diffemorphisms,then why not??Bring an example.A (plane) curve in parametric coordinates.And tell us what u gave to do to express it in (plane) polar coordinates.

Daniel.
 
If I'm given the parametric equations for a hypocycloid:
x(t)=(a/n)[(n-1)cos(t)-cos[(n-1)t]
y(t)-(a/n)[(n-1)sin(t)+sin[(n-1)t]

how would I go about putting it into a function form [tex]r(\theta)[\tex].<br /> There has to be some way to do it. What would it be?<br /> <br /> Thanks[/tex]
 
If I'm given the parametric equations for a hypocycloid:
x(t)=(a/n)[(n-1)cos(t)-cos[(n-1)t]
y(t)-(a/n)[(n-1)sin(t)+sin[(n-1)t]

how would I go about putting it into a function form [tex]r(\theta)[/tex].
There has to be some way to do it. What would it be?

Thanks
 
That's a horrible curve... Anyway'ill let u do the calculations of eliminating the parameter. :biggrin:
[tex]\rho (t)=\sqrt{x^{2}(t)+y^{2}(t)}[/tex]
[tex]\theta(t)=\arctan({\frac{y(t)}{x(t)}})[/tex]

Express [itex]t(\theta)[/itex] and plug it into [itex]\rho(t)[/itex].

Daniel.

PS.My advice:GIVE UP!It's enough to know that it's possible. :wink:
 
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Thanks Kurt? I assume that is your name. That is all I needed. Oh, and I'm not going to give it up. :wink:
 
Moore1879 said:
Thanks Kurt? I assume that is your name. That is all I needed. Oh, and I'm not going to give it up. :wink:

:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: My name is Daniel.I write it all the time.
That is a "signature".It's edited from the "USER CP" box.Kurt Lewin was a theorist and i loved his idea and decided to quote him.

Daniel.Really,no bull****.
 
It's much easier to find [tex]t(\rho)[/tex] than [tex]t(\theta)[/tex]
Then, you might invert [tex]\theta(\rho)[/tex] into [tex]\rho(\theta)[/tex]
the inversion is practically impossible to perform, so I concur with Daniel's advice.
 

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