Is Physical Chemistry the Right University Path for You?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential path of studying physical chemistry at university, particularly from the perspective of a 16-year-old considering their academic and career options. Participants explore the relevance of physical chemistry, its connection to quantum mechanics, and alternative fields such as biochemistry and medical physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in physical chemistry, particularly its ties to quantum mechanics, and seeks advice on the subject.
  • Another participant suggests considering the biotech industry and biochemistry as alternatives, emphasizing the importance of aligning career choices with personal interests and job security.
  • Concerns about job security are raised, with a personal anecdote illustrating the unpredictability of career paths in research and military contracts.
  • One participant highlights their broad interests in science, including inorganic chemistry, quantum physics, and molecular biology, while emphasizing a desire to work hard regardless of perceived mathematical ability.
  • Discussion includes the potential for lucrative careers in medical physics, detailing job responsibilities and benefits associated with the field.
  • There is a notion that enjoyment in work and good pay can coexist, with a recommendation to investigate specific job opportunities in medical physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best path forward. Multiple competing views are presented regarding the suitability of physical chemistry versus other fields like biochemistry and medical physics, reflecting differing priorities and interests.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of uncertainty regarding their future goals and the implications of their subject choices. There is a recognition of the need to consider market conditions and personal satisfaction in career decisions.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals contemplating a university path in physical chemistry or related fields, as well as those interested in the intersections of chemistry, physics, and potential career outcomes in science.

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Hello all

I'm thinking of maybe doing physical chemistry in university (currently I'm 16) but as i am currently doing AS- level, I've chosen maths, biology, Chemistry, and Design technology.

Now the above subjects would be somewhat, pointed towards medicine, however, I'm not that keen on medicine. Although my parents would like it, i just ain't that keen on it.

Now, I've been looking for other subjects to do, and I've taken particular interest in phyiscal chemistry. From what i have seen, a lot of physical chemistry is on Quantum mechanics. Although I am not implying that i learn all from a book, I've started reading physical chemsitry books on the Schrödinger equation, Bohr model etc..

Can anyone give me some advice on this? And if you do physical chemsitry in uni, what is it like for you?
 
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Bladibla said:
Hello all

I'm thinking of maybe doing physical chemistry in university (currently I'm 16) but as i am currently doing AS- level, I've chosen maths, biology, Chemistry, and Design technology.

Now the above subjects would be somewhat, pointed towards medicine, however, I'm not that keen on medicine. Although my parents would like it, i just ain't that keen on it.

Now, I've been looking for other subjects to do, and I've taken particular interest in phyiscal chemistry. From what i have seen, a lot of physical chemistry is on Quantum mechanics. Although I am not implying that i learn all from a book, I've started reading physical chemsitry books on the Schrödinger equation, Bohr model etc..

Can anyone give me some advice on this? And if you do physical chemsitry in uni, what is it like for you?
I guess it depends on many factors. What are your goals? What is important to you? What are you interested in?

Keep in mind, for example, the the biotech industry is a pretty large industry and pretty fascinating stuff. If you like chemistry then you might also want to consider being a biochemist. If you like quantum mechanics you might think about biophysics, medical physics etc.

Job security is quite important from a practical standpoint. When I was young I was concerned more with "cool job" than I was "job security" which came in second. I'd do things a bit differently I think. When I graduated from college I went straight to work for a research company on a research contract with the Air Forces Rome Laboratory. It was a military contract and I figured this was a safe position to be in - the company never layed anyone off in the last 25 years. However! It was the following year that the government started cutting contracts, closing bases etc. I neglected to take into account that the cold war could end in my lifetime.

So I was layed off ... a month after I bought a brand spanking new Acura Integra! :cry:

The moral of this story - Be practical too. Consider everything before you make your final decision. Don't ignore simple questions like what the market is like for a particular career path etc. E.g. tell your parents you'll be a biopchemist if they buy you a new Ferrari. :biggrin:

Pete
 
pmb_phy said:
I guess it depends on many factors. What are your goals? What is important to you? What are you interested in?

Keep in mind, for example, the the biotech industry is a pretty large industry and pretty fascinating stuff. If you like chemistry then you might also want to consider being a biochemist. If you like quantum mechanics you might think about biophysics, medical physics etc.

Job security is quite important from a practical standpoint. When I was young I was concerned more with "cool job" than I was "job security" which came in second. I'd do things a bit differently I think. When I graduated from college I went straight to work for a research company on a research contract with the Air Forces Rome Laboratory. It was a military contract and I figured this was a safe position to be in - the company never layed anyone off in the last 25 years. However! It was the following year that the government started cutting contracts, closing bases etc. I neglected to take into account that the cold war could end in my lifetime.

So I was layed off ... a month after I bought a brand spanking new Acura Integra! :cry:

The moral of this story - Be practical too. Consider everything before you make your final decision. Don't ignore simple questions like what the market is like for a particular career path etc. E.g. tell your parents you'll be a biopchemist if they buy you a new Ferrari. :biggrin:

Pete

Well, my goal in life is... i have to find out. All i know is that its going to be about science in someway.
My interests are...well just about anything. Specifically, i love inorganic chemistry, quantum physics (from what i read), molecular biology, maths (i don't consider myself 'good', but I am determined to work as hard as i can), and DT (as i mentioned before)

I ain't in it for money, which many people who do biochemistry and medicine think of.

Very specifically, i have a lot of interest in the structure of the atom. That required to knowledge of elements, (chemistry) and also micro-physics (or quantum physics)
 
Bladibla said:
Well, my goal in life is... i have to find out. All i know is that its going to be about science in someway.
My interests are...well just about anything. Specifically, i love inorganic chemistry, quantum physics (from what i read), molecular biology, maths (i don't consider myself 'good', but I am determined to work as hard as i can), and DT (as i mentioned before)

I ain't in it for money, which many people who do biochemistry and medicine think of.

Very specifically, i have a lot of interest in the structure of the atom. That required to knowledge of elements, (chemistry) and also micro-physics (or quantum physics)
I hope you don't have the idea that joy of work and excellant pay are mutually exclusive. One can have their cake and eat it too.

Let me give you an example; Medical Physics. One can make an awesome living in this field. The pay is between $70,0000/year and $190,000/year. In this field one typically works at a Hospital (lots of nurses :wink: ) or a particle accelerator lad and would do things like work with particle accelerators, radiation, nuclear medicine etc. Proton therapy is becomming very popular now. Plus you can help people fight to live, which is always a good thing I think you'd agree. o:)

This field seems perfect for you since it has everything you're looking for. The benefits at hospitals are pretty good too. E.g. when I went to work on a military contract I started out with 2 weeks vaction per year. Hospitals will sometimes start you out with 1 month vacation per year. I highly recommend that you investigate it. E.g. go to Mass General's website and search on jobs using the key word "physics" and read the job description.

Pete's Philospohy of Life: Work to live. Don't live to work.

The best of all worlds is when you enjoy your work to the extent that it seems like play. However when you get into real life its all work no matter what. The newness will wear off and it becomes a job in all cases.

Pete
 

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