What is the controversy surrounding Oprah's popularity?

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The discussion revolves around the controversy surrounding Oprah Winfrey's popularity, examining various perspectives on her persona, the sincerity of her actions, and the impact of her media presence. Participants explore themes of consumerism, emotional authenticity, and the societal implications of her influence.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about Oprah's authenticity, describing her as "phony" and suggesting that her emotional displays may not be genuine due to her fame and wealth.
  • Others argue that her popularity may stem from her relatability to her audience, particularly women experiencing similar life stages, such as menopause.
  • There are claims that her shows promote consumerism, with participants noting that her endorsements can have a significant impact on viewers.
  • Some participants recall specific instances of Oprah giving away gifts, questioning whether this contributes to her appeal and discussing the emotional reactions of her audience.
  • A few participants reflect on the nature of her audience's reactions, suggesting they may be performative or exaggerated.
  • Concerns are raised about the portrayal of sensitive topics on her show, with one participant criticizing the potential misrepresentation of cultural issues.
  • There is a mention of Dr. Phil, with mixed opinions on his approach and ethics compared to Oprah's.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion features multiple competing views regarding Oprah's popularity and authenticity, with no clear consensus reached among participants.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about emotional sincerity, the impact of media on societal perceptions, and the nature of audience engagement, which remain unresolved.

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Readers interested in media studies, celebrity culture, and the psychological impact of television personalities may find this discussion relevant.

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I personally think she is one of the phoniest people I have ever known in my life.. Her actions are so fake and artificial, yet so many women adore her... truly mind baffling.. :confused:

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How many times can you cry on TV, day after day, year after year?

With her wealth, fame, power, and the number of years she's been doing this, I doubt that heartfelt sincerity comes easily anymore.
 
Or, she's just hypersensitive and makes good money by effectively exploiting that fact. :biggrin:
 
I've always wondered how so many women can adore her myself, when I see her shows all I think is "What a huge advertisment for consumerism". Every other episode she makes some statement about wanting to lose weight, or how nice some famous person's purse is or something like that, that one statement from such an adored woman has more effect than all the lycosuction infomercials in America put together.
 
Smurf said:
that one statement from such an adored woman has more effect than all the lycosuction infomercials in America put together.

Hmm I have never seen a "lycosuction" infomercial, or even a "liposuction" infomercial. Come on now, if you are going to bash Americans at least make sure it is factual :-p

Back on topic. Beats me why Oprah is so popular. My only guess is that she is a single women with a day time talk show about women stuff; however, I have never watched an entire episode of her show, so I probably do not know what I am talking about.
 
Why isn't Einstein popular? Now, that's a question.

Oprah is probably popular because she's going through menopause, just like all her viewers.
 
JasonRox said:
Oprah is probably popular because she's going through menopause, just like all her viewers.

I thought it was because she gives things to people. Remember that time when she gave a car for each audience member?
 
Chrono said:
I thought it was because she gives things to people. Remember that time when she gave a car for each audience member?

WHAT!

Are you SERIOUS! :bugeye:

Damn! Are the tickets free? I wouldn't mind going to see one of her shows. :wink:
 
maybe she is a talented host who the audience trusts?
 
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I remember crying once while watching her show...she was giving away 40GB iPods to everyone in the studio audience.

What do you guys think of Dr. Phil?
 
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Dr. Phil, very down to Earth thinks the same way I do. I used to agree with 99% of what he said, although I didn't watch often. Then he learned about ratings. Now he has no problem exploiting children and ruining their lives and I refuse to even pause on his show while channel surfing.
 
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recon said:
I remember crying once while watching her show...she was giving away 40GB iPods to everyone in the studio audience.

That's really sad, I would've cried too
 
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Don't say anything bad about Oprah
 
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klusener said:
I personally think she is one of the phoniest people I have ever known in my life.

I'm curious how long you have known her and how you guys met.
Do you have any personal stories you would be willing to share about times you shared with her that made you feel the way you do?
 
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one_raven said:
I'm curious how long you have known her and how you guys met.
Do you have any personal stories you would be willing to share about times you shared with her that made you feel the way you do?

oh don't even get me into this...

it was late one night, on the shores of Lake Victoria, the water was rushing towards my feet and the shivering breeze blew away my sweater, and there appeared this woman... wait a minute, i am not supposed to be giving this stuff away for free, when i write my autobiography and sell it for $2 cause it is made in china, you will know...

anyways, i just said that she was phony because her actions are artificial and every moment she is trying to sell some product to her viewers, but what really bugs me is that she always assumes this role of u know consciencous leader, dammit i know i spelled it wrong, who helps less unfortunate children and women in Africa and Asia... what really got to me was this episode where the whole thing was on how Indian men burned their wives almost fequently or something... i know for a fact that it rarely happens and when it does sporadically happen, it is in the rural areas... but if u are a viewer watching it in america or europe, you get the idea that indian me go home from work everyday and burn their wives... i hate that kind of stuff... and i also hate it when she keeps giving stuff to people and she seems to care more about getting their reactions on tape, rather than receiving their thanks personally... Even her audience is phony, everytime she appears, they are all gushing or clapping and when even nothing happens, they all start to cry...

on a side note, after reading "the catcher in the rye" i have started to notice a lot of phony things...

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When the Europeans came, they had the Bible and we had the land. They said that this is the book of God and asked us to meditate. When we opened our eyes they had the land and we had the Bible.

- Jomo Kenyatta
 
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klusener said:
it was late one night, on the shores of Lake Victoria, the water was rushing towards my feet and the shivering breeze blew away my sweater, and there appeared this woman... wait a minute, i am not supposed to be giving this stuff away for free, when i write my autobiography and sell it for $2 cause it is made in china, you will know...

Aww, man! It was just starting to get good!

By the way, I like your quote:
When the Europeans came, they had the Bible and we had the land. They said that this is the book of God and asked us to meditate. When we opened our eyes they had the land and we had the Bible.
I'm going to have to look up Jomo Kenyatta, now.
Is (s)he a writer?
 
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Oprah is a very powerful woman and she is a role-model to a lot of people. Sure, her shows have become more entertaining, would you like to watch a show about nothing but misery and complaining people?

I think she does a good job and says powerful things, brings good topics to the people's attention and HEY! what's wrong with treating the whole audience with sponsered cars? She has the power to do that and it sure made a lot of people happy.

About the crying thing, how can it be unnatural when the whole studio audience and home audience is tearing up too? (incl. me)
 
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one_raven said:
Aww, man! It was just starting to get good!

By the way, I like your quote:

I'm going to have to look up Jomo Kenyatta, now.
Is (s)he a writer?

jomo kenyatta was a kenyan activist, he was jailed for a long time after being convicted in the Mau Mau incidents. He was later the prime minister of Kenya..

but he did write books:

Facing Mount Kenya
Suffering Without Bitterness
 
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JasonRox said:
Damn! Are the tickets free? I wouldn't mind going to see one of her shows. :wink:

I know. The only reason I knew that she did that was because I was, for some strange reason, watching ET one night and they covered it.
 

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