Calculating Acceleration with Spark Timers for Dynamics Cart Experiment

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The discussion revolves around calculating acceleration using spark timers and ticker tape in a dynamics cart experiment. The original poster seeks clarification on the process of determining acceleration from time measurements and distances on the tape, particularly in the context of finding the coefficient of friction on an inclined plane.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between distance, time, and velocity, with some suggesting methods for calculating average acceleration from discrete data points on the tape. Questions arise regarding the applicability of formulas for constant versus variable acceleration.

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The conversation is active, with participants providing insights into calculating average acceleration and addressing the challenges of using discrete measurements. There is a recognition of the need to differentiate between average and instantaneous acceleration, though no consensus has been reached on a single method.

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Participants note the limitations of using discrete data points for calculating acceleration, emphasizing the need for careful consideration of time intervals and the nature of the measurements involved.

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just a quick question on spark timers, mostly on ticker tape. I need a reminder on how to calculate the acceleration on the tape. i know i need to take a time measurement and the distance between the dots on the tape but from there do i need to calculate intervals or what? I'm using the acceleration to help find the coefficient of friction of a dynamics cart and brass mass on an inclined plane. thanks for the help!
 
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For acceleration it's velocity over time. So you need to find the velocity (distance over time).
For example if I move 5 meters in 5 seconds my velocity is 1m/s, then for acceleration I put 1m/s over 5s, then my acceleration is 0.2m/s.
 
i understand that, but acceleration is not constant and the v = d/t formula is for constant velocity...
 
It is average acceleration sorry, for instantaneous acceleration use dv/dt and velocity use dr/dt.
 
Of course, since you only have discrete values for the marks (not a continuous function), you can't really use "dv/dt".

What you need to do is find the average speed between each pair of marks: distance measured on the tape divided by the time interval.


Now do the same for each pair of average speed values: subtract the two speeds and divide by the time interval.

That gives the average acceleration over each interval and gives you an acceleration function between intervals.
 
thanks for the help
i figured out that the graph of the instananeous velocity of vs the time at that speed will give me the slope equal to the acceleration. if i still sound confused please help but thanks for your replies!
 

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