If space is expanding how can the electrical properties stay constant?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of how electrical properties can remain constant if space is expanding. Participants explore the implications of changing constants, particularly the fine structure constant, and its relationship with other physical constants.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether electrical properties are indeed constant in the context of an expanding universe.
  • Another participant suggests that the fine structure constant may not be constant and could change over time, implying that this could affect other constants such as electrical charge, speed of light, Planck's constant, and permittivity of space.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the relationship between the constants and the speed of light, questioning how the speed of light can remain constant if one of the governing constants is changing.
  • There are claims of experimental data suggesting that the fine structure constant and possibly the speed of light may vary over time, although these findings are not firmly established and remain controversial.
  • One participant notes that there are experiments indicating the speed of light might be slowly changing, but emphasizes the lack of verification for these experiments.
  • Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

    Participants do not reach a consensus on whether electrical properties remain constant or if constants like the fine structure constant and the speed of light may change over time. Multiple competing views are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved.

    Contextual Notes

    The discussion highlights uncertainties regarding the constancy of physical constants and the implications of their potential variability, as well as the need for further experimental verification.

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if space is expanding how can the electrical properties
stay constant?
 
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It is believed that the fine stucture constant is not a constant. That is, it changes over time. This is not firmly established but there are some good indications (i.e. experimental data). Why would that interest me, you wonder?
Well the fine structure constant depends on 4 other constants:
- e: electrical charge
- c: speed of light
- h: Planck's cst
- e0: permittivity of space

[alpha]=e2/2e0hc

So if the fine stucture cst changes over time, one or more of these "constants" has to change. Since it is probably the permittivity of space that changes your question would be answered: they don't...
 
then i must be confused ,i thought that the 2Ps, governed
the speed of light ,if one of them is changeing how
can C be constant?
 
Like I said: this is not firmly established. There are also (Australian) experiments suggesting that the speed of light is not constant in time, but in fact slowly decreasing (or was it increasing). The problem is that there are no checks for these experiments yet.
 
thankyou HEUMPJE
 

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