Transmission Lines and Impedance Matching: what is considered electrically 'short'?by satchmo05 Tags: considered, electrically, hort, impedance, lines, matching, transmission 

#1
Feb2512, 12:24 PM

P: 114

Hey all,
Between two devices, I will need to have a coaxial line (with SMA connections on either end) connecting them. The operating frequency of the signal I am propagating is approximately 125 MHz. With this said, the wavelength (assuming ideal) is 2.4 meters. I have heard from numerous sources that if electrically 'long,' it is greater than 0.25λ, which is any length larger than 0.6 meters. Any transmission line length smaller than 0.6 meters is considered "electrically short." My question is in regards to impedance matching: if my transmission line is "electrically short," do I need to worry about impedance matching? Obviously, everything would be happy if I matched at the load, but I'm interested to know if I can skip a step. My thought is that since I'm at such a high frequency, attenuation and loss effects will be near negligible. Thoughts? Thanks for your help!  Satchmo05 



#2
Feb2512, 01:14 PM

P: 2,452

More info please. If the input and output impedances are the same then the length of the line is not significant. Of course they should match the impedance of the line that connects them unless the line is considerably shorter than a wavelength. Like 0.1λ.
 Why do you equate high frequency to negligible attenuation? 



#3
Feb2512, 01:21 PM

P: 114

I guess what I should've asked is when do I not have to worry about impedance matching, in terms of transmission line length? When less than 0.25 lambda? When electrically small (< 0.1 lambda)?
My reasoning there was more of a length issue: attenuation constants, line capacitance, line impedance, etc. are all measured in meters. If my coax line is less than 0.1 lambda < 0.24 m, then minimal attenuation can be expected. 



#4
Feb2512, 01:22 PM

P: 3,844

Transmission Lines and Impedance Matching: what is considered electrically 'short'? 



#5
Feb2512, 05:44 PM

P: 1,784

You also need to remember that the wavelength in free space is not the same as the wavelength in coax. You need to look up the propagation velocity for the coax you're using and divide your wavelength by that percentage.
You do have to worry about impedance matching even with short transmission lines. RF engineers match impedances between stages even though the electrical length is essentially zero. When the impedances are not matched, some of the energy is reflected from the load reducing the power out. Also that reflected energy can cause the final stage to heat up and even go into oscillation. A quarter wavelength transmission line can be your worst case. If you have a quarter wavelength attached to your source and forget to connect a load, the open at the end of the transmission line will appear to be a short at the last stage and may destroy the transistor. If you can give us the complex impedances of your source and load, we can help you match them. 


Register to reply 
Related Discussions  
Transmission Line Impedance Matching  General Physics  4  
When is the electrically short really short?  Electrical Engineering  3  
Effects of a nonmatching impedance between the transmission line and the antenna  Electrical Engineering  1  
Transmission Lines & Impedance Matching  Introductory Physics Homework  1  
impedance matching!  Electrical Engineering  3 