How much light does your average home mirror reflect?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the reflective properties of home mirrors compared to high-quality optical mirrors, including their light reflection percentages and associated costs. Participants explore various types of mirrors, their applications, and the factors influencing their performance and pricing.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that average home mirrors reflect about 40-60% of light, while high-quality mirrors can reflect 98-99.9% depending on their specifications.
  • One participant notes that astronomical mirrors are typically front coated, which may lead to different performance characteristics compared to back surface coated home mirrors.
  • Another participant mentions that optical grade mirrors are rated based on the quality of the reflected image, with specific figures related to wavefront error (e.g., 1/4 wave, 1/10 wave).
  • Cost estimates for high-quality mirrors vary significantly, with some participants stating that prices can range from $70 for a basic parabolic mirror to several thousand dollars for diffraction-limited mirrors.
  • One participant shares an anecdote about obtaining high-grade mirror scraps from a university, noting a subjective impression of better color depth compared to ordinary mirrors, but without specific reflection percentage data.
  • There is mention of the importance of application context when discussing mirror costs and performance, as different uses may require different specifications.
  • Some participants highlight that laser mirrors require extremely high reflection percentages (99.99% for full-reflection mirrors) and that these figures are often wavelength-dependent.
  • Suggestions for sourcing optical grade mirrors include surplus suppliers, indicating a potential avenue for obtaining mirrors at lower costs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the reflection percentages of different types of mirrors, and there is no consensus on specific values or the best sources for high-quality mirrors. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact performance characteristics of home versus high-quality mirrors.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the performance of mirrors can depend on various factors, including the type of coating, the intended application, and the specific wavelengths of light being considered. There are also references to potential distortions and light loss in everyday mirrors that may affect their reflective properties.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals looking to understand the differences between home and optical-grade mirrors, as well as those considering purchasing mirrors for specific applications in fields such as astronomy or optics.

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A few questions about mirrors:

1) How much light (as a percentage) does your average home mirror reflect?
2) How much light (as a percentage) does a very high quality mirror reflect?
3) How much does a very high quality mirror cost?

Thanks.
 
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I can speak a little for Astronomical use mirrors. They are front coated (the coating is placed on the front of the glass and you look at the coated surface) home type mirrors are back surface coated and you look through a layer of glass to see the reflected image, there is some distortion through the glass and light loss through diffraction, but the amount of distortion is minimal for everyday type use and the glass protects the coating.

Optical grade mirrors are usually rated on the quality of the reflected image. A high grade Astronomical mirror for instance might be figured as a parabola, ground, polished and coated for 1/4 wave (fair), 1/8 wave (good), 1/10 wave (better), or diffraction limited (best).

An 8" diameter, parabolic, 1/4 wave mirror can be had for about $70.00. A diffraction limited one of the same size might cost $400.00 or more (up to several thousand).

Hope this helps some.
 


Originally posted by MisterBig

...3) How much does a very high quality mirror cost?
...

One time I scrounged some high-grade mirror from
a university physics laboratory. They had cut something
to size and had some odd-dimensioned scraps left over.
No cost. Probably would have been thrown out.
It was nice to handle (but hold it by the edges)
and appeared to be extremely flat
my memory of it is that the colors of things were
deeper and less washed out than they appear
in ordinary mirror but I cannot say for sure and
I do not know the percentages.

Edmond scientific catalog a natural place to look
may be online now
 


Originally posted by MisterBig
1) How much light (as a percentage) does your average home mirror reflect?
2) How much light (as a percentage) does a very high quality mirror reflect?
3) How much does a very high quality mirror cost?
google will offer you better figures, but from memory, ordinary daily mirrors reflect as little as 40-60% of light. Lasers require 99.99% for full-reflection mirror and 99.9% for front escape mirror. They usually have such figures only in narrow band of wavelengths. Infact, upon eye inspection, laser mirrors are transparent to most except specific wavelengths.

High quality wideband (relatively flat wavelength characteristic in visible light range) reflect 98-99.9%. Probably better figures too, but that'd cost exponentially more.

Cost of very high quality mirror makes only sense when you tell your application. There's too many different things for different purposes. Obviously, size of mirror and surface precision has biggest impact on cost.

If you live with prisms, then total internal reflection can offer 100% reflection in certain conditions.
 
Also, if you are in the market for optical grade mirrors, try the surplus sources such as surplusshed.com An excellent source of inexpensive mirrors, lenses, etc.
 

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