Calculating Length of Cottage Rafters

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The problem involves calculating the length of roof rafters for a cottage that is 15 m wide, with rafters meeting at an angle of 80 degrees and hanging over the supporting wall by 0.5 m. The context is rooted in trigonometry and geometry.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of trigonometry and the setup of the problem, with some suggesting the use of right triangles instead of sine and cosine laws. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the overhang and the arrangement of the rafters, as well as the clarity of the problem statement.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of right triangles, but there is still uncertainty about the diagram and the meaning of the rafters' length in relation to the overhang.

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There is a lack of a diagram accompanying the problem, which has led to confusion about the arrangement of the rafters and the interpretation of the overhang measurement. Participants are encouraged to seek clarification from their teacher regarding these points.

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Kelly designs a cottage that is 15 m wide. The roof rafters are the same length and meet at angle of 80 degrees. The rafters hang over the supporting wall by 0.5 m. How long are the rafters?

Im not sure how to set up this question will it involve algebra?

I don't know how the cosine law or sine law can be used can someone help me out please? :smile:
 
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It requires, of course, trigonometry. You don't need the sine and cosine laws since this can be done entirely with right triangles.

First draw a picture! You have an isosceles triangle with the roof forming the two top (equal) lines. Since "the rafters hang over the supporting wall by 0.5 m" (I am assuming that that is measured horizontally) the length of the base of that triangle is 15 m (the 15 m width plus the two 0.5 m overhang). You can get right triangles by drawing the vertical line down from the crest of the roof (i.e. the top angle). That way you have two identical right triangles. The angle at the top is (1/2)(80)= 40 degrees and the length of the "opposite side" is (1/2)(16)= 8 m. You know that
sin(angle)= opposite/hypotenuse so sin(40)= 8/x. Of course, the rafters ARE the hypotenuses.
 
I think my diagram doesn't look right because I don't understand why you added the 0.5 to the base. why wasn't it added to the rafters?

Can someone please explain? :confused:
 
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aisha said:
Kelly designs a cottage that is 15 m wide. The roof rafters are the same length and meet at angle of 80 degrees. The rafters hang over the supporting wall by 0.5 m. How long are the rafters?

Im not sure how to set up this question will it involve algebra?

I don't know how the cosine law or sine law can be used can someone help me out please? :smile:
What I do not get is how are the rafters arranged. Is there a diagram with it or are you simply given the question as it is written?? Also, why does the question say that the rafters are the same length and then say they are 0.5m longer??

Answer these and the answer might be obvious.

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
aisha said:
I think my diagram doesn't look right because I don't understand why you added the 0.5 to the base. why wasn't it added to the rafters?

Can someone please explain? :confused:

That possibility had occurred to me- you might want to ask your teacher to clarify it. I decided that the words "hang over" referred to the distance out from the wall.

If you think it means that the length of the rafter, past the wall, is 0.5 m, do the problem with base 15 m so the "opposite side" of the right triangle is 7.5 m (the fact that the other way gives an integer length here may have influenced me!). Now solve for the hypotenuse of that right triangle and then add 0.5 m to it.
 
ok thanks soo much, I will ask her for sure! :smile:

Bob there was no diagram just the question I didnt write it so I don't know why it says what it does. :smile:
 
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