Halliday & Resnick: Comprehensive Physics Textbook for Self-Study

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The discussion revolves around the suitability of Halliday & Resnick's physics textbooks for self-study, particularly for individuals with a background limited to grade 11 physics. Participants explore various editions of the textbooks, their mathematical rigor, and the overall value of older versus newer editions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that fundamental physics has not changed significantly over the years, implying that older editions of Halliday & Resnick's book remain useful.
  • Others argue that different editions contain varying levels of mathematical complexity, with later editions incorporating more calculus, which may be beneficial for understanding certain topics.
  • One participant recommends the 6th edition for its affordability and quality, while noting that the 7th edition offers more challenging problems and engaging visuals.
  • Another participant highlights the existence of two different Halliday & Resnick texts, noting that "Physics" may cover more advanced material compared to "Fundamentals of Physics."
  • Some express a preference for older editions, citing their concise theory and excellent problem sets, although cautioning that they require careful reading to avoid missing concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of opinions regarding the value of different editions of Halliday & Resnick's textbooks, with no clear consensus on which edition is definitively better for self-study. Some agree on the utility of older editions, while others emphasize the advantages of newer ones.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying levels of mathematical content across editions, which may affect the learning experience for those with limited calculus knowledge. There is also uncertainty regarding the availability of older editions in the market.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in self-studying physics, particularly those with a background in high school physics and looking for suitable textbooks, may find this discussion relevant.

TheShapeOfTime
I'm trying to find a textbook that can I can use to study on my own time and I've heard great things of Halliday & Resnick's book. What I want to know is if this is the most current version and if I'll get lost or not having only grade 11 physics.
 
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Believe it or not fundamental physics has not changed a lot in the last 50 or even 100 years. You should be able to find a perfectly useful copy of this text at a used book store for a very reasonable price. There is no real benefit in having the most current edition.
 
Integral said:
Believe it or not fundamental physics has not changed a lot in the last 50 or even 100 years. You should be able to find a perfectly useful copy of this text at a used book store for a very reasonable price. There is no real benefit in having the most current edition.


Indeed, besides, any version of this book is a piece of art on itself. Just like the Zumdahl-books on chemistry...

Any version will do fine and you will find anything that you need...

regards
marlon
 
I would disagree with these statements. Fundementals of Physics 4th edition and 5th edition DO NOT contain the same "high level" of math (more 4th then 5th). I found that FOP (Fundementals of Physics) 6th and 7th edition contain a larger amount of calculus which is a lot more fun then just the basic formulas. (expessialy in the harmonic motion, rotational motion and waves sections...)

If you are short on cash then I would recommend buying the 6th edition, but the seventh edition contains more challengin problems, and a lot more interesting photos (which may help if you are reading the text by yourself).

If you are only in grade 11, I would recommend that you learn basic calculus first before attempting to further your physics knowledge. This helps a lot in the waves/rotational movement Parts. Also Without the basic calculus you will find the textbook a bit overwhelming ...
 
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I used that book as part of my intro physics sequence and really enjoyed it. If you know calculus this is a great book to work with.
 
I loved Resnick and Halliday. It was a staple for the "S" papers and the Ph Olympiad.
 
TheShapeOfTime said:
I've heard great things of Halliday & Resnick's.

Look for the "Berkeley Physics Course - McGraw-Hill " (probably out of print).
The collection (5 volumes, and "Mechanics" is the first one) is by far much better than Halliday.
 
TheShapeOfTime said:
I'm trying to find a textbook that can I can use to study on my own time and I've heard great things of Halliday & Resnick's book. What I want to know is if this is the most current version and if I'll get lost or not having only grade 11 physics.

I have the 6th ed. I only used it for 2nd semester Physics, not first, but I thought the 2nd semester info was really good! It was better than my first semester book (can't remember the name/author now). Looks like you can pick one up for 25$ on amazon.com marketplace. I would definitely go with the 6th ed for the price, why spend 127$ on the newest ed. I am just figuring this out now, I'm sorry I bought the newest ed of my Organic book, some of my peers have the previous and it seems just as good.

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I was not aware, until recently, that there are actually 2 different Halliday & Resnick texts on the market. Fundamentals of Physics by Halliday, Resnick and (now)Walker and Physics by Halliday,Resnick and (now)Krane. Evidently Physics entails more math and depth then Fundamentals.

I must put in a plug for Physics as my first University Physics course (using Fundamentals..) was taught by Ken Krane, the new contributer.
 
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Well i have both old two volume editons(written only by halliday-resnick) and 6th edition of halliday resnick walker i think the old two volume is the best it beats walker one by i think 100-10 if you are studying a little advanced level physics.Though you have to read very carefully you can easily jump over some concepts in old book the theory is very concise problems are excellent (concepts are hidden in problems) .
I would say
if you like physics purchase old one two volume though i am not sure whether it is still available in market.
 
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Thanks for your input
 

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