Let's Create Amazing Playgrounds with Liquid Metal Golf

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential applications and properties of LiquidMetal, particularly in the context of creating innovative playgrounds and other uses in technology and engineering. Participants explore various aspects of this material, including its unique characteristics and possible implementations in different fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the potential uses of LiquidMetal in playgrounds and other applications, highlighting its unique properties such as a high coefficient of restitution.
  • Others suggest that LiquidMetal could be beneficial in military applications, particularly for bearings and components in mechanical power transmission systems.
  • A participant notes the material's low thermal expansion coefficient and its potential use in precision instruments and chemical process equipment.
  • There is a discussion about the amorphous nature of LiquidMetal, with one participant providing a detailed explanation of its atomic structure and how it differs from crystalline materials.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the stability of amorphous metals, particularly their tendency to revert to a crystalline structure over time, especially at elevated temperatures.
  • Another participant questions the claims of superior corrosion and wear resistance, suggesting that the material's properties may not be as advantageous as presented.
  • There is interest in comparing the yield strengths of LiquidMetals with those of monocrystalline materials used in high-performance applications, such as turbine blades.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the advantages and limitations of LiquidMetal. Multiple competing views exist regarding its applications, properties, and the validity of claims made about it.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the long-term stability of amorphous metals and their performance in high-temperature environments. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of the material's properties and potential applications.

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Well, let's get these new playgrounds up and running!

http://www.liquidmetalgolf.com/

I saw a special about this stuff on the history channel a few weeks ago. It looks really cool. Anybody have any cool ideas how it can be used?
 
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Originally posted by enigma
Anybody have any cool ideas how it can be used?
Golf is of course the most important thing you can do with new materials technology.

Hiya. :smile:
 
Ah! The golf is in the site name because of their amazing demo. If you go into the site, and look to the left, it shows a clip of it.

A golfball bouncing on liquidmetal has a coefficient of restitution MUCH larger than steel or titanium. It keeps bouncing and bouncing. It actually looks like one of the high-bouncy balls you get out of the dime toy dispensers in the supermarket.
 
It might already be hiding in the DoD apps --- if it's as good as is claimed, it's ideal for bearings, gears, shafts, and other components in high throughput mechanical power transmission applications --- couple more knots for the Navy's bathtub toys, little more performance here and there for the other services.


First addendum: Low thermal expansion coefficient for gauging and measurement applications, kinematic mounts, optical benches, precision valves; chemical process equipment.
 
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Originally posted by enigma
Ah! The golf is in the site name because of their amazing demo. If you go into the site, and look to the left, it shows a clip of it.
Actually, golf is in the site name because they sell pretty good drivers. Hype aside, I think the materials science is a nice innovation.
 
Didn't read it all, but it sounds neat!
 
wow :)
thats really cool!

just got too interested about it and found even http://ice.chem.wisc.edu/catalogitems/ScienceKits.htm#Amorphous where u can order those tubes etc :)

The atoms in an amorphous material are not arranged in any ordered structure, rather they have a tightly-packed, but random arrangement. Amorphous materials are formed by cooling the liquid material quickly enough to prevent crystallization; the atoms do not have time to arrange themselves into an ordered structure. Liquidmetal® is an amorphous alloy (also known as a metallic glass) containing five elements, with the elemental composition is 41.2% zirconium, 22.5% beryllium, 13.8% titanium, 12.5% copper, and 10.0% nickel.

and those weren't golfballs bouncing.. just plain ball bearings.
 
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Quenching a material rapidly to prevent a ordered microscopic arrangement is not a new concept. In fact, blacksmiths in forges of the Middle Ages were working along a similar principle by repeatedly heating a blade, hammering it and quenching it.

The theory is that the work hardening introduces deformations/dislocations into the microscopic structure. At elevated temperatures, large, crystalline grains will re-nucleate about these dislocations. So you get a finer grain structure. Quenching it effectively locks the changes in place.

Regardless, one major disadvantage of metals with an amorphous microstructure formed by quenching is that they are an unstable alloy. Basically, if you leave them for some time, their microstructure will slowly change, reverting back to a crystalline structure. This effect is even worse at elevated temperatures, because the reorganising of the microstructure is mostly a diffusion governed process, thus controlled by Arrhenius' Law.

This process basically limits the applications of such materials to lower temperature operations (e.g. not in engines). If they are implemented in high temperature applications, they must be continuously monitored/replaced.

Their improved strength/weight ratio comes partly from their lower densities due to poorer atomic packing. The high hardness/yield strength from the lack of any slip lines, like grain boundaries. Their allegedly higher corrosion resistance and wear resistance claims are a bit dubious. Thermodynamically speaking, the atoms in an amorphous metal are at a higher energy state than a crystalline one, meaning that they should be more reactive. Sort of like how a lump of marble will react slower than powdered marble with acid. The 'higher' wear resistance could be due to them comparing a tool made monolithically out of LiquidMetal rather than with a (as is typically done) surface treated tool. A surface treated tool is like a tooth - hard enamel with a relatively softer dentine. Once you breach the hard surface the tool loses its wear resistance. Obviously, a monolithic part made out of a single material with only average wear resistance may well have a higher overall wear resistance than one with just a hard coating.
 
Incidentally, I would like to see comparisons between the yield strengths of such LiquidMetals and monocrystalline materials, such as those used in turbine blades of high performance aero engines.
 

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