A Kalusza-Klein Hidden Variables Theory

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a paper by X. Chen proposing a Kaluza-Klein hidden variables theory, which involves dimensions that are both timelike and serve as hidden variables. Participants express interest in the implications of this theory and seek clarification and opinions from others in the community.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight that Chen's theory is not a "TD" type and note his credibility as a contributor to arXiv.
  • There is a request for others' opinions on the paper, indicating a desire for community engagement and evaluation.
  • One participant suggests that the paper could be better understood if explained in simpler terms, using analogies like a cloud.
  • Another participant proposes that the discussion could benefit from being posted in a string theory thread, questioning the necessity of strings in relation to hidden variables theory.
  • Concerns are raised about the derivations in Chen's paper, prompting a suggestion to seek expertise in general relativity for further evaluation.
  • A participant expresses a willingness to learn more about the merit of Chen's ideas, despite not being mathematically inclined.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of interest and skepticism regarding Chen's theory, with no consensus reached on its validity or implications. Some participants propose alternative forums for discussion, indicating differing views on the best audience for evaluating the paper.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and implications of timelike dimensions as hidden variables, as well as the relationship between Kaluza-Klein ideas and string theory. Participants express uncertainty about the mathematical derivations presented in the paper.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring theories of extra dimensions, hidden variables in quantum mechanics, and the intersections of string theory and general relativity.

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..From X. Chen, with dimensions 5 and 6 being timelike and constituting the hidden variables. http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0501034.

This is not a "TD" type of theory, and Chen has the theoretical chops to have been an arxiv contributer for years. I know there has been interest in multiple times here, and this is a pretty interesting example.
 
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selfAdjoint said:
..From X. Chen, with dimensions 5 and 6 being timelike and constituting the hidden variables. http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0501034.

This is not a "TD" type of theory, and Chen has the theoretical chops to have been an arxiv contributer for years. I know there has been interest in multiple times here, and this is a pretty interesting example.
I'm suprised there haven't been any replys about this paper. I'd like to know what others think. Thanks for the link sA.

Regards
 
dlgoff said:
I'm suprised there haven't been any replys about this paper. I'd like to know what others think. Thanks for the link sA.

Regards
You might try posting a thread about it on sci.physics.research, there'd probably be more people with the expertise to evaluate it there.
 
does that mean you can answer my question?

I have a copy of your paper, but could you explain it in simple terms, for someone like me, in terms of a cloud for example.

Regards

Terry Giblin
 
The string theory thread would also seem an appropriate place to post the original message.
 
PhysicsFan said:
The string theory thread would also seem an appropriate place to post the original message.
Would you have to have strings in this case? If I understand it, there are only 3 spatial dimensions. And 3 time dimensions.

Regards
 
I just thought that because some Kaluza-Klein ideas and the idea of extra dimensions have been invoked within string theory, some people who look primarily at the string theory thread within this website might be able to comment on the original topic. Posting in the string area would just be a way of reaching a potential audience. That's all. I don't know if "hidden variables theory" requires strings.
 
I am going to post in the relativity forum. Reason: I have doubts about some of his derivations and I would like an expert on GR tech to look at it.
 
I look forward to following your thread. I'm no math whiz, but I'd like to learn if there is any merit to his ideas.

Thanks

Don
 

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