Can stolen computers be traced directly through the Internet?

*Loren Booda*

Does a virtual "LoJack" for computers exist? By means of their informational nature, does not a computer trade data concerning their identity with whomever they come in contact with? Such a communication, if it exists, could put an eventual damper on hardware cybertheft.

imabug

if the computer has a network card there's alway the possibility of tracing it through the MAC address, which is unique to every network card out there. Not exactly a trivial task, but possible.

In order for a computer 'LoJack' system to be effective, the computer itself would have to connected to a network or be able to broadcast a signal somehow. It would have to be something that's integrated into hardware and not easy to remove (software can always be deleted).

Then someone would have to be able to detect the signal the stolen computer sends out. Locating it physically would be the next challenge. It's easy to tell if a computer is operating. Finding out where it's operating is the hard part.

Anttech

if the computer has a network card there's alway the possibility of tracing it through the MAC address

Well, you can always take the ethernet card out, or change the MAC address, Mac addys are administravely changeable

dduardo

You can basically do what lo-jack does by installing a GPS device and a becon into the computer. If the computer is stolen you activate the becon and the GPS device will allow you to locate the computer.

Anttech

unless you rip of/out the becon ;-)

dduardo

Not if it is built right into the motherboard.

Nylex

What's "lo-jack"?

hitssquad

Quote by Nylex

What's "lo-jack"?

It is a beacon for your automobile that allows police to track and recover that automobile if you report it stolen. The name is a play on the word hijack.

http://www.lojack.com

russ_watters

Quote by imabug

if the computer has a network card there's alway the possibility of tracing it through the MAC address, which is unique to every network card out there. Not exactly a trivial task, but possible.

A similar concept is the unique identifier now put on Intel chips. That was supposed to be for security purposes (internet ID theft deterrent) anyway.

Raoul

Quote by russ_watters

A similar concept is the unique identifier now put on Intel chips. That was supposed to be for security purposes (internet ID theft deterrent) anyway.

How is that possible? Can my stolen Mac mini being traced by that?

Thanks.

-Job-

Build a windows service that runs in the background, and at any time (like boot up) accesses a web page (a script) which logs information like IP, etc. I built such a service for my server, watch out. :)

darkar

http://www.brigadoonsoftware.com/

this company setup something like u sent an email to their server eveytime u log on to internet and they can trace where u from.

rhody

Super Secret Software Saves a Stolen Laptop

No funny comments on necroposting either, hehe... and that includes you, Jimmy... this is a legitimate post.

The app is called Hidden. It functions by tracking the laptop's movements through collecting network data and taking photos of the culprit and screenshots of the computer in use.

Kaufman's laptop was stolen on March 21. He filed a police report with the Oakland Police Deparment that same day, and he began to use Hidden to collect photos and location data. Much to his dismay, there was little progress with his case.

Two months later on May 27, he launched a web campaign, This Guy Has My MacBook, via Tumblr. He updated his tumblelog with photos taken of who he suspected stole the laptop.

One of the images shows Albedashi with his shirt off in bed. Another shows Albedashi asleep on his couch. Kaufman cross-posted his Tumblr to Twitter on May 31 and picked up thousands of hits and tweets.

With the steady increase in popularity of his campaign and calls from several media outlets, Oakland police reopened the case. On May 31, Kaufman was contacted by Officer Holly Joshi that the police were moving forward with his case.

Undercover officers contacted Albedashi's taxi company and had them arrange a pickup for the suspect. Upon arriving at the location, Albedashi was arrested and the laptop was retrieved.

Kaufman concluded his campaign with, "ARRESTED! An Oakland police officer just called me to let me know that they arrested the guy in my photos! BOOYA!"

Nice to know such things exist, especially with students who fall victim to thieves in college and are tech savy, now, you have a way to protect yourselves and fight back.

Rhody...

JaredJames

Quote by rhody

Nice to know such things exist, especially with students who fall victim to thieves in college and are tech savy, now, you have a way to protect yourselves and fight back.

Rhody...

Macs have similar software that has gained a lot of publicity recently.

They track the computer and take pictures and a few reports have come in of people being arrested with it.

I know iPhones have the same tech too, with a number of people being caught with them.

rhody

Quote by JaredJames

Macs have similar software that has gained a lot of publicity recently.

They track the computer and take pictures and a few reports have come in of people being arrested with it.

I know iPhones have the same tech too, with a number of people being caught with them.

Jared,

Isn't technology wonderful ?! Yep...

Rhody...

JaredJames

I've always been curious why nobody implemented it earlier. Seems like a no brainer now it's here...

MATLABdude

There's a whole swack of device tracking software nowadays:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...cking_software

The aforementioned PCPhoneHome is a rootkit that claims to be able to survive a format. LoJack resides in the BIOS / EFI.

Nevertheless, sufficiently persistent thieves could probably work around these issues. It'd make theft cost-prohibitive (maybe), but it's not impossible to overcome.

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