What Is the Initial Separation Between Two Charged Particles?

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The discussion revolves around a problem in electrostatics involving two charged particles, focusing on their initial separation after being released from rest. The problem involves concepts of energy conservation and momentum in the context of charged particle dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using energy conservation to relate initial and final states of the system, questioning the setup of the energy equations. There is also exploration of momentum conservation as a potential approach to find the velocities of both particles.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on considering the entire system, suggesting that both kinetic energies should be included in the energy conservation equation. Others are exploring how to derive the velocity of the second particle, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions regarding the system's boundaries and the need for additional information, such as the speed of the second particle, which remains unknown. Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem without definitive resolutions.

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One particle has a mass of 3.00x10^-3 kg and a charge of +7.80 µC. A second particle has a mass of 6.00x10^-3 kg and the same charge. The two particles are initially held in place and then released. The particles fly apart, and when the separation between them is 0.100 m, the speed of the 3.00x10^-3 kg particle is 130 m/s. Find the initial separation between the particles.

Using the information given from the 3x10^-3 kg particle, I tried to use enegry to solve the problem. EPEinitial=EPEfinal+KE I subsituted and eventually ended up with kq^2/r(initial)=kq^2/r(final)+1/2mv^2. I solved the equation for r(final) and I got an answer that made sense, but it was not the right answer. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
 
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remember that with energy problems you have to keep in mind what the "system" is that you are evaluating. In this case, the system contains BOTH particles, so the right side of the equation should contain two kinetic energy components (one for each particle).
The new question now is what is the speed of the other particle?
 
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If you take the system as a whole, net force is zero. So may be we can use the conservation of mometum to find the velocity of the other particle
 
So if I add the other kenetic energy to the other side of the equation I get kq^2/r(initial)=kq^2/r(final)+1/2mV^2+1/2mv^2. Instead of one unknown in the equation I now have two, the velocity of the second particle and the initial distance between the particles? How do I go about getting the velocity of the second particle?
 

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