How Does Substitution Work in Solving Homogeneous Differential Equations?

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The discussion revolves around the substitution method for solving homogeneous differential equations, specifically focusing on the equation (x^2+y^2)dx+(x^2-xy)dy=0. Participants are exploring the implications of substituting y with ux and the subsequent transformations that occur in the equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand the substitution process and the resulting transformations in the equation. Questions are raised about the derivation of dy = udx + xdu and the appearance of x^3 in the transformed equation. There is also confusion regarding the simplification of terms such as (x^2 + u^2x^2) into x^2(1 + u).

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to clarify the steps involved in the substitution process, with some participants expressing confusion about specific transformations. One participant indicates they have resolved their confusion, suggesting that there is ongoing exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of a textbook example, which may not provide sufficient detail for all steps in the substitution process. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in understanding the transformations involved.

kdinser
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The book only has one example of this and it's really confusing me.

[tex](x^2+y^2)dx+(x^2-xy)dy=0[/tex]

I can see that it's homogeneous of degree 2

They then let [tex]y = ux[/tex]
From there they state that [tex]dy = udx+xdu[/tex] (I'm not sure where this is coming from, but can just accept it on faith if I have to)

I'm fine with making the subs.

[tex](x^2+u^2x^2)dx+(x^2-ux^2)(u dx+x du)=0[/tex]

This is the part that really screws me up.

[tex]x^2(1+u)dx+x^3(1-u)du=0[/tex]

Where did the [tex]x^3[/tex] come from? All I see is [tex]x^2[/tex]. Or I guess I should ask, how did [tex]udx+xdu[/tex] become just [tex]xdu[/tex]? That would explain the [tex]x^3[/tex] they have.
 
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Just noticed something else odd.

How did they turn [tex](x^2+x^2u^2)[/tex] into [tex]x^2(1+u)[/tex] what happened to the other u? Shouldn't it be [tex]x^2(1+u^2)[/tex]?
 
your book is correct

[tex](x^2+u^2x^2)dx+(x^2-ux^2)(u dx+x du)=0[/tex]

[tex](x^2+u^2x^2)dx + ux^2dx -u^2x^2dx + x^3du -ux^3du=0[/tex]
just calculate the above formula...you must have mage an error there

how do you do this ?

marlon
 
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Thanks, I got it now, I just wasn't carrying things far enough.
 
kdinser said:
They then let [tex]y = ux[/tex]
From there they state that [tex]dy = udx+xdu[/tex] (I'm not sure where this is coming from, but can just accept it on faith if I have to)
It's just the product rule of differentiation:

[tex]y = ux[/tex]

[tex]\frac{d}{du}\left[ y\right] =\frac{d}{du}\left[ ux\right][/tex]

[tex]\frac{dy}{du} = u\frac{dx}{du}+x\frac{du}{du}[/tex]

[tex]dy = udx+xdu[/tex]
 

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