How Does Euler's Formula e^(2*pi*i) Evaluate to 1?

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The discussion centers around the evaluation of Euler's formula, specifically how e^(2*pi*i) equals 1. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings, mathematical derivations, and implications of this identity, touching on concepts from complex analysis and infinite series.

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  • Some participants explain Euler's formula as e^{(iθ)} = cos(θ) + i sin(θ) and demonstrate its application by substituting θ = 2π.
  • Others discuss the infinite series expansions for e^x, cos(x), and sin(x), suggesting this approach provides insight into the evaluation of e^(2*pi*i).
  • A participant introduces the relationship e^(i*π) = -1 and explores its implications for e^(2*pi*i), leading to the conclusion that e^(2*pi*i) = 1.
  • Another participant raises a question about a mathematical manipulation involving square roots of negative numbers, expressing confusion over the nature of complex and real numbers in this context.
  • Some participants note the uniqueness of the solution to the differential equation f'' + f = 0 and relate it to the expression e^(ix) = cos(x) + i sin(x).
  • One participant reflects on the elegance of Euler's formula and its geometric representation in the complex plane.

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Participants present various viewpoints and approaches to understanding Euler's formula, with some agreement on the formula's implications but no consensus on the resolution of the mathematical confusion raised regarding square roots of complex numbers.

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Some discussions involve assumptions about the properties of complex numbers and the behavior of functions like the square root, which may not hold universally. The exploration of infinite series and their convergence is also noted but not fully resolved.

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How does that evaluate 1??

e^(2*pi*i)
 
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xenogizmo said:
e^(2*pi*i)
It comes from Euler's formula

[tex]e^{\left( i\theta\right) } =\cos\theta +i \sin\theta[/tex]

[tex]e^{\left(i2\pi\right) } =\cos2\pi +i \sin2\pi[/tex]

[tex]e^{\left(i2\pi\right) } =1 + 0[/tex]

[tex]e^{\left(i2\pi\right) } =1[/tex]
 
Well the way you get this is to look at the infinite polynomial expansion of
e^x, cos(x) and sin(x)

e^x= 1+ x/1! + x^2/2! + x^3/3! + x^4/4! ... + x^k/k! + ...etc...

cos(x) = 1 - x^2/2! + x^4/4! - x^6/6! + x^8/8! - x^10/10! +... etc...

sin(x) = x - x^3/3! + x^5/5! - x^7/7! + x^9/9! - x^11/11! -...etc...

This is how your calculator probably calculates sin(x) and cos(x) ...
These series can be derived quite easily, and if your curious I can explain how you can get these infinite series expressions for the functions e^x,
sin(x) and cos(x).

Now if you substitute i*x for x into e^x, where i = square root of -1.
Note that :

i = i
i^2 = -1
i^3 = -i
i^4 = 1

i^5 = i
i^6 = -1
i^7 = -i
i^8 = 1 ect in this repeating fasion

then

e^(i*x) = 1 + i*x/1! + (i*x)^2/2! + (i*x)^3/3! + (i*x)^4/4! +(i*x)^5/5!...

=1 +ix/1! - x^2/2! -ix^3/3! + x^4/4! + ix^5/5! - x^6/6!...

This series can be spit into two infinite series

e^(i*x) = 1 - x^2/2! + x^4/4! - x^6/6! + x^8/8!... = cos(x)
+ i*( x - x^3/3! + x^5/5! - x^7/7! + x^9/9! ... = i*sin(x)

therefor

e^ (i*x) = cos(x) + i*sin(x)

Then if you substitute Pi for x you have

e^(i*Pi) = cos(Pi) + i*sin(Pi)
= -1 + 0
= -1

This is a very beautiful and elegant formula discovered by Euler I think.

The formula also has a very nice geometric representation when you view it in the complex plane, and this is generally an easier way to understand the formula if you don't like all the algebra.
 
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taylor series

something that is also interesting i^i=
e^(ipi)^(i^1/2)=(i^2)^(i^(1/2)= e^(-pi/2)
 
one also knows the unique solution of f''+f = 0, f(0)= a, and f'(0) = b, is
acos(x) + b sin(x). But e^(ix) solves it with a = 1, b = i. so e^(ix) = cos(x)+isin(x).
 
I haven't seen this before...

but though i follow the concluding above, I ran in some trouble a moment. ago...
My first thought was that it is quite close to the Eulers formula e^(pi*i) +1 =0 , so I stared to fiddle with it in hope of getting something funny out of it.. but i found this...

e^(pi*i) + 1 = 0
e^(2*pi*i) = 1

e^(pi*i) = -1
(e^(pi*i))^2 = 1

- (e^(pi*i)) = (e^(pi*i))^2

SQRT( -(e^(pi*i)) ) = e^(pi*i)

The problem now is that on the left side there is a SQRT of a negative number (about -23,14) which means it is a complex number... while on the other side we have a real positive number (about 23,14)...

Have I made some mathematcial error, or how can this be...?
 
strid said:
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SQRT( -(e^(pi*i)) ) = e^(pi*i)

The problem now is that on the left side there is a SQRT of a negative number (about -23,14) which means it is a complex number... while on the other side we have a real positive number (about 23,14)...

Have I made some mathematcial error, or how can this be...?

Two things. The designation -x does not mean that the quantity -x is a negative real number. Secondly, the f(x)=x^2 function is not globally invertible, so you cannot always assume that if x^2=a^2, then x=a. Thus, in your example, SQRT( -(e^(pi*i)) ) = SQRT(-(-1)) = SQRT(1) = 1. 1 is one square root of (e^(pi*i))^2 = 1. The other square root is -1.
 
ok... got it now...

guessed already in before-hand that Euler probably knows more than me :)
 

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