Robustness of the Riemann integral

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The discussion centers on the concept of robustness in the context of the Riemann integral. Robustness refers to the ability of an integral to maintain integrability under certain transformations of functions. The example provided illustrates that while a sequence of functions can be Riemann integrable, their limit may not be, highlighting the limitations of the Riemann integral in theoretical applications. Specifically, the limiting function of a sequence of Riemann integrable functions can fail to be integrable, demonstrating the lack of robustness in the Riemann framework.

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Could someone explain me what robustness is(in ur words), and how it works in proofs. All i kno is that basically u have two functions and u jiggle them a lot until u make them integrable if its not or destroy their integrability if they are integrable. Geometric explanation would really help here but the main question is what is its purpose, it doesn't really make any difference in the end, right.
 
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I have absolutely no idea at what you are trying to get...
 
When it is said that the Riemann integral is not "robust" enough for "theoretical" purposes, it roughly means there are lots of functions we would have liked to be "integrable" but which aren't in the Riemann sense of integrability.
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The above is perhaps more appriopriately concerned with "limitedness" rather than "robustness".

The following example, however, is more to the issue of "robustness":
Consider the unit interval, and make a bijection between the rationals in the unit interval and N, i.e, [tex]x_{n}[/tex]

Now, consider the functions:
[tex]f_{n}(x_{m})=1, m<=n[/tex]
with [tex]f_{n}=0[/tex] otherwise.

The limiting function f of this sequence, is clearly 1 on the rationals, and 0 at the irrationals.

All [tex]f_{n}[/tex] are Riemann integrable, yet f is not!
We would have liked that the limiting function were integrable as well, but the Riemann integral isn't robust enough to allow the integrability of f.
 
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